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01-24-2006, 02:06 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
you're not good 33% and if the 3rd player has a straight draw you need to be good more than that
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#13
01-24-2006, 02:10 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
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a) I puke that you folded b) I cap the turn c) I call the river d) I wonder how -EV of a fold this was. I think its worse than open folding AA UTG...three times. e) why are you calling the turn 3 bet to fold the river? the one out draw looks tempting if you really thought you were behind in a nutshell, this is some overplayed hand like QQ too often or AK/AQ/AJ or simply tilt. Never ever fold. [/ QUOTE ] you live in a fantasy world. peace john nickle
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#14
01-24-2006, 02:12 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
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why call the turn if you're gonna fold the river? The K doesn't change anything. If he's good like you say he can't have KK. If he's not you shouldn't be folding. That said, if he's a solid reasonable player there's no way you are ahead after he 3bets the turn. You better have a damn good read that he plays logically to make that laydown though. [/ QUOTE ] the king hit the one hand he could play this way that i beat, KK. Also, i never fold a quad draw. peace john nickle
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#15
01-24-2006, 02:14 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
I'll rehash what someone else pointed out and say that if he's 3 betting KK on an A turn there's no way you can fold this hand on account of what other whacky stuff he may do.
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#17
01-24-2006, 02:26 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
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[ QUOTE ] a) I puke that you folded b) I cap the turn c) I call the river d) I wonder how -EV of a fold this was. I think its worse than open folding AA UTG...three times. e) why are you calling the turn 3 bet to fold the river? the one out draw looks tempting if you really thought you were behind in a nutshell, this is some overplayed hand like QQ too often or AK/AQ/AJ or simply tilt. Never ever fold. [/ QUOTE ] you live in a fantasy world. peace john nickle [/ QUOTE ]i play poker as my main source of income. i agree it is a fantasy.
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#19
01-24-2006, 02:33 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] a) I puke that you folded b) I cap the turn c) I call the river d) I wonder how -EV of a fold this was. I think its worse than open folding AA UTG...three times. e) why are you calling the turn 3 bet to fold the river? the one out draw looks tempting if you really thought you were behind in a nutshell, this is some overplayed hand like QQ too often or AK/AQ/AJ or simply tilt. Never ever fold. [/ QUOTE ] you live in a fantasy world. peace john nickle [/ QUOTE ]i play poker as my main source of income. i agree it is a fantasy. [/ QUOTE ] im sorry, what i meant was there is no way this fold is as big a loss of value as you seem to imply. You are being more than a bit hyperbolic. Also. Im impressed that you play poker for a living. I just dont know if i could do that. sounds stressfull and difficult. peace john nickle
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#20
01-24-2006, 02:38 AM
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Re: now this is a river fold
someone cue the "furcoat dilema"
Arent you the guy who never folds the flop getting 13-1? You should never fold the river here getting 21-1. If you are going to make this fold, do it on the turn. Like others have said, if hes got KK on this turn, then he can have enough hands you beat you should call this river. So either you made a bad fold on the river, or you made a bad call on the turn. Either way you misplayed it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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