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Old 08-08-2006, 03:08 PM
BabyJesus BabyJesus is offline
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Default Re: $1/$2 NL, $300 max: Brilliant? Unethical? Wow, strangest hand e

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To the OP... Depending on the house rules, as lots of little rooms, or rooms new to NL still have the limit raising requirements for re-opening the action. I have never played NL at the O, so I can't say if they are using the right rule for NL raises or not.

You should be VERY careful in a situation like this, if the other player had his act together at all, he would have called the floor, had your AI disallowed and nailed you on the turn.

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Percula,

I'm pretty sure that by house rules that the action hadn't actually been reopened (i.e. I raised myself all-in). It was just because of all the drama that no one noticed: me, BB and dealer included. Like I said, it wasn't until way later after going back over the hand in my head that I realized it.

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I'm pretty sure betting is reopened if the raise at least 1/2 the orginal raises since he raised your bet of $30 to $54 ($24 raise which is > $15) you're allowed to open the betting back up.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: $1/$2 NL, $300 max: Brilliant? Unethical? Wow, strangest hand e

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I'm pretty sure betting is reopened if the raise at least 1/2 the orginal raises since he raised your bet of $30 to $54 ($24 raise which is > $15) you're allowed to open the betting back up.

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As a couple of people have said, which you seem not to notice, you are just wrong here. What you describe is the rule for limit poker, but for no limit, almost all rooms (correctly) require a complete sized reraise to reopen the betting.

I picked up an interesting tell from this rule once: Good player was in early position, maniac on his left, and I was on the button. After the expected preflop raise by maniac, I flopped top and bottom pair with my A7s. I saw good player, who was first to act on the flop, studying maniac's stack, and then he bet exactly half of what the maniac had, which was about half pot -- a low bet for him. Maniac reraised all in, reopening the betting. I mucked my two pair -- that half the stack bet just screamed "Please, God, let me reraise." Sure enough, good player had middle set with 99.
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: $1/$2 NL, $300 max: Brilliant? Unethical? Wow, strangest hand e

Yes, most poker rooms require a full doubling of the prior bet to reopen the betting in NL, this is pretty much standard. However, on like 3 occassions I heard a dealer say something about how The Orleans doesn't have a half-bet rule. I'm not sure, but I believe this means if the bet is $20 and you throw in $35, you'll be required to take the $15 back and call. Most other casinos will force you to complete the raise to $40 because you tried to raise more than half the bet. This has little relevance besides the fact it shows the O has at least one non-standard rule.

Now that I think about it, I remember someone getting frustrated at Orleans because he bet $50 and someone moved in for $99 and the dealer wouldn't let him reraise. I guess that answers the question completely.
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Old 08-09-2006, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: $1/$2 NL, $300 max: Brilliant? Unethical? Wow, strangest hand e

I've definitely played in places where the rule is what I stated for NL, though nobody ever seemed confident. I believe this is the case at Foxwoods.

Couldn't find much after very brief google search, but according to a site referencing a NL tourney (http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/hwcp_rules.php) Rule 18 states that "An all-in raise that is less than 50% of a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who has already acted," thus implying that if the all-in raise is greater than 50% it does reopen the action.
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