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Old 07-09-2006, 10:44 AM
Heine Heine is offline
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Default Re: 50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

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anyone who raises $12 to "see where they are" with a $50 stack will not last long.

You are out of position and therefore cannot call. It is entirely believable you have at least a pair of kings. At small limits I find a large reraise on a flop with a flush draw means that person is afraid of the flush most times. There are a lot of hands he could have limp called with preflop that now have you soundly beaten, and even if he has a hand like 10 J clubs he has a lot of outs.

I would tend to fold in the absence of any reads. I think he flopped a monster and is trying to get your stack.

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I think that is weak/tight IMO.

What about leading a non-club turn for 2/3 pot and folding to a raise and c/r AI a club turn?

1. Non-club. I think this will slow down AK. Charges for the free card (if he has Q10, charge him. J10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], is less of a favorite on the non-club turn.

2. club turn Rep the flush, I think this play has a lot of fold equity. And gets some better hands to lay down. And we have a ton of outs.


Anyone disagree? Baluga what do you think?
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Old 07-09-2006, 11:23 AM
MsgrMartinez MsgrMartinez is offline
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Default Re: 50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

If you were at the table and have no idea what the raise means, how should we know? From some villains, this is the nuts, from some it's a combo draw, and from some it's air looking to snap off your c-bet by bluffing at a scary board.

I think against most somewhat passive villains, you're behind or crushed here more often than you're ahead, and rarely do you have villain crushed.
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Old 07-09-2006, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: 50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

I would call then cr turn
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Old 07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

i push. too many scare cards to come.
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

yeah, w/o reads pushing is fine.

If you think the opponent is good enough to call a push with KQ, then c/r the turn all-in. If you think your opponent would raise a flush draw on this flop, push.

The only issue with the turn c/r is that you really don't want to see a K, Q, or club. So pushing is probably good here.
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: 50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

I think you end up all-in at some point during this hand, so why not try to take down the pot on the flop? An OESD will likely fold to your all-in reraise, as will a lot of the weak hands UTG may be trying to scare you off with. Try to take down the pot now.
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