Easy call?

[Iwineverypot]

edited to show -- i had 50.

[Sciolist]

For $50, I think you have to call here. The pot is something like $100 (I forgot now) by this stage, and it's less than $40 to you. My analysis had you needing to put in the whole $68.50. I had you at ~0.65 for a call here, getting 0.4 on the pot would make this a clear call.

[Fallen Hero]

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For $50, I think you have to call here. The pot is something like $100 (I forgot now) by this stage, and it's less than $40 to you. My analysis had you needing to put in the whole $68.50. I had you at ~0.65 for a call here, getting 0.4 on the pot would make this a clear call.

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I would only call to win a big side pot since I believe we have villain 2 beat, $50 isn't enough for me.

[Sciolist]

KK: 0.060
TT: 0.940
AJ: 0.349
J9: 0.355
PP: ~0.900

We specifically have to put side pot villain on KK for this to be a -ev call for only $40. We're almost getting odds if he has the made straight - the chances of him having 2 pair or TT are just too high for us to pass here.

We have to get up to something like 40% probability he has KK to pass here. I don't think we can do that, there're too many other hands that fit the mold.

[Iwineverypot]

Well it turns out Villian 2 had KK villian 1 had 1010. To add insult to injury the turn was another K. When he went all in i did one of those hover over call, hover over fold, back and forth etc....Something was telling me to fold this but i just could not do it. I guess I figured AA or 1010 are paying me off too often here to not call this -- but after thinking about it with his reraise preflop and 2 people that eager to get all in I should've put him on kings.

[Sciolist]

I really don't think you can put him on that specific a hand. How can you rule out AJ or QK, for example? Furthermore, surely you made money on the hand - Villain 2 was the shortstack, right? You lose $30 to Villian 1 and gained $40 back from Villian 2. This is why I think it was a marginal but correct call.

[Sciolist]

I guess I am alone in thinking this is a marginal but correct call though :]

[Iwineverypot]

Na, Bigstack had the k's. I put him on it because of the reraise -- who reraises AJ or QK? 99% of the time i see reraises at these stakes it's aces or kings.

[Fallen Hero]

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I really don't think you can put him on that specific a hand. How can you rule out AJ or QK, for example? Furthermore, surely you made money on the hand - Villain 2 was the shortstack, right? You lose $30 to Villian 1 and gained $40 back from Villian 2. This is why I think it was a marginal but correct call.

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without going back to check your math: how on earth can you win $40 from the big stack if you start the hand with $50 and put around $25 in the main pot?

[Sciolist]

Good point, I wasn't looking at his allin too.