JJ in awkward spot - Page 2

TheCount212 · #11 05-31-2006, 01:12 PM

I think you have to push here. You now have < 5x BB, and the two checks in front are probably wary of a flush and will fold to any bet. Plus, pushing (rather than min-betting) will probably scare off anyone holding only the Ac.

Black Aces 518 · #12 05-31-2006, 01:39 PM

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Isn't this awfully similar to the Sklanksy TT UTG hand, posted a few weeks ago? The M was about the same, though the OP in the Sklansky had more bbs.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9361&page=

The geniuses were saying to limp in that hand.

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Not that close to the same situation. M is 5 here, as opposed to 7 in Sklansky's, and Sklanksy's had very high antes, which many opponents won't correctly account for. You have much more FE to most opps with 20BB than with 7, regardless of ante, thus a much more playable stack.

Obviously JJ is better than TT against the range that people will call a shove with as well, especially considering how much "smaller" the shove will seem.

andre006 · #13 05-31-2006, 03:09 PM

throw them away wtf!! no equity to put them in yo pants it's a clear smoothie!

Masquerade · #14 05-31-2006, 03:20 PM

This is an automatic push pre-flop. Your M is 5 you simply cannot play post-flop correctly after raising because of your lack of chips.

DeeJ · #15 06-01-2006, 06:06 AM

I nearly pushed preflop - the temptation to try to get a few more chips than simply collecting the blinds (which were going to hit me next hand and were soon about to increase) made me slap in a regular raise.

Anyhoo, I did push; SB called BB folded.

SB shows A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I am just a short head behind.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]