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#12
05-09-2006, 11:06 AM
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Re: Calling two, cold, on the flop with a gutshot
I might peel one here if I were very sure that it wouldn't be raised again after I act. That kind of surety isn't going to happen often enough, and my default play here is to fold.
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#13
05-09-2006, 11:08 AM
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Re: Calling two, cold, on the flop with a gutshot
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With 4 opponents? I can only imagine you are betting for value here, what is the plan for the turn -- check? [/ QUOTE ] On average you will see the turn for cheaper by leading then by check calling. You've shown a ton of strength by raising a field of limpers from the bb so even people holding weak aces will often not raise a flop lead from you.
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#15
05-09-2006, 11:10 AM
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Re: Calling two, cold, on the flop with a gutshot
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bet the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I think betting the flop is suicide.
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#16
05-09-2006, 11:17 AM
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Re: Calling two, cold, on the flop with a gutshot
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[ QUOTE ] bet the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I think betting the flop is suicide. [/ QUOTE ] I think Hobbs makes an excellent point: [ QUOTE ] On average you will see the turn for cheaper by leading then by check calling. You've shown a ton of strength by raising a field of limpers from the bb so even people holding weak aces will often not raise a flop lead from you. [/ QUOTE ] Tom
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#17
05-09-2006, 11:29 AM
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Re: Calling two, cold, on the flop with a gutshot
You have a gssd and a non nut bdfd. If you spike your K or J, it's probably no good. I think you need about 6:1 or 7:1 to call this. You're getting 7:1 here but you're not closing the betting. So the question comes how likely is the original bettor on a bet/3 bet plane? It comes down to reads. If he's not going to three bet, you're effectively getting 8:1 to call. So call if a three bet is unlikely.
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