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05-08-2006, 12:27 PM
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Re: Will some LV rooms close in 2006
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Uh... O'Shea's dragged some old 7-stud tables out onto the sidewalk today to run $60 SnG's and a 1-5 spread limit holdem game. [/ QUOTE ] WTF, seriously? That is incredible. [/ QUOTE ] No joke. [/ QUOTE ] It is my understanding that they just send staff from the Flamingo over to deal. [/ QUOTE ] So in that case, why would a poker room ever "close" if all they need to do is reduce the dealers and floor to the gaming equivalent of day laborers? Again, I don't know anything about the business, but it's sounding to me like the dilution is bad for the staff and players, but just fine for the casinos. 
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#32
05-08-2006, 12:53 PM
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Re: Will some LV rooms close in 2006
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Uh... O'Shea's dragged some old 7-stud tables out onto the sidewalk today to run $60 SnG's and a 1-5 spread limit holdem game. [/ QUOTE ] WTF, seriously? That is incredible. [/ QUOTE ] No joke. [/ QUOTE ] It is my understanding that they just send staff from the Flamingo over to deal. [/ QUOTE ] So in that case, why would a poker room ever "close" if all they need to do is reduce the dealers and floor to the gaming equivalent of day laborers? Again, I don't know anything about the business, but it's sounding to me like the dilution is bad for the staff and players, but just fine for the casinos. [/ QUOTE ] The dilution is not good for the casinos either. Assuming a casino wants to make as much money as possible, a full poker room is better than an empty poker room. The dilution has resulted in many of the poker rooms being empty or near empty for a lot of the time. Labor costs are not a lot, but they ar existent. You have floor staff to pay, a poker room manager to pay, dealers to pay (even though this is a mimimum wage type position, when you start adding in additional costs such as employment taxes, workers comp ins., unemployment ins, employee benefits, lobor costs can add up). Clearly empty poker rooms are not good for casinos. And I don't think sending Dealers from the flamingo to O'sheas changes anything. Flamingo and O'shea's have always been related properties. In fact I believe that they send Table games dealesr back and forth between them. Years ago I remember them using each others chips at the table games. Using dealers from one the other property isn't a big deal.
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#33
05-08-2006, 01:19 PM
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Re: Will some LV rooms close in 2006
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Poker rooms aren't going to close. They've become the modern loss leader without the loss. [/ QUOTE ] What he said! :-) Aladdin has a pretty hopping room most days. I'm pretty sure on one of my last few visits I recall discussions about the new room when the rennovations are complete. Haven't seen the room at Hooters. The casino itself reminds me of going to Spring Training in Clearwater. Paris' poker room isn't really a room to begin with. They cleared out a row of table games and replaced them with poker tables. Pretty sad, actually.
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#34
05-08-2006, 01:21 PM
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Re: Will some LV rooms close in 2006
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[ QUOTE ] Uh... O'Shea's dragged some old 7-stud tables out onto the sidewalk today to run $60 SnG's and a 1-5 spread limit holdem game. [/ QUOTE ] WTF, seriously? That is incredible. [/ QUOTE ] Funny, I had the same reaction! LOL
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#35
05-08-2006, 09:33 PM
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As of 6 months ago Encore was set to include a new and improved poker room that is in the center of the pit surrounded by table games, its a concept that deviates from the current trend of "stick it in the corner" rooms. To clarify Encore is a new tower at Wynn with an expanded main floor casino. It is not a new casino per se. [/ QUOTE ] I was told just last night from someone who says they know Kathleen that the rumor du jour is that the new room at Encore will be replacing the current Wynn room, as they've wanted to expand the room/make it bigger, but couldn't find the space where they're currently confined (something about only being able to take the ticket booth to add room space, which wasn't enough). I think the "stick it in the corner" rooms happen as they do because of casinos adding the rooms post-building, meaning needing to clear out a slot area or somesuch to add the poker room, whereas Encore will be building with the poker room in the plans. Didn't know about Ramblas dying. Oh well. Harmon Ave.'s a [censored] mess as it is.
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#36
05-09-2006, 10:19 AM
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Re: Will some LV rooms close in 2006
Yes Flamingo and O'Sheas are one property. Pit dealers break in at O'Sheas generally. One employee cafeteria, employees that work in one cannot play in the other.
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