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#11
04-22-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
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#13
04-22-2006, 06:38 PM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
No, I think he's saying that that the FTR converter's avatars for card suits (on the left) are whey ghey when compared to our badass ones (on the right).
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#14
04-22-2006, 06:47 PM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
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#15
04-22-2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
Fold preflop.
Call the bet. You can't raise for value if you don't know if people will be calling. (if you would have played this hand from the button and an EP player would bet, get some callers you could raise without a problem)
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#16
04-23-2006, 07:07 AM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
Ok lets play this hand different. Lets say I just call the bet, and the TAG CO raises and gets two callers including the player who bet the flop. Would a raise be correct there?
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#17
04-23-2006, 09:57 AM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
If it was checked to you then I would bet in this spot, but unfortunately it was bet right in front of you so if you raise now you will face the entire field with calling two bets cold. Even in a game as loose as this you might cut your field more than you want too. Go for overcalls here.
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#18
04-23-2006, 10:34 AM
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Re: J8s: Call or raise for value?
I raise here for value AND I will take the free card if I miss my draw. The raise for value is not only for the double belly, but you have a back door flush draw as well. I don't mind if it goes heads up or if everyone calls. A raise will buy your jack outs. It should fold those that checked QJ, TJ, KJ, and AJ if someone limped in with it.
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