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#11
04-10-2006, 02:50 PM
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Re: Donking KK UTG
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I push the turn. And make it t2400 preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Yup. Or at least 2000 PF. I guess that's table dependent though, you isolated so I guess it was enough. I'd be very happy to take down the pot on the turn, and even if he calls and somehow has you beat, you still have a good redraw. 
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#12
04-10-2006, 02:51 PM
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Re: Donking KK UTG
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[ QUOTE ] KK or AA usually you will win a small pot or lose a big one. Bigger bet preflop is the only good idea. I wouldnt call the river. [/ QUOTE ] The quote from Brunson is you "win a big pot or lose a big pot" with big pairs. He said you "win a small pot or lose a big pot" with trouble hands like AJo. There is 40K in the pot and hero has 16K left, so you are getting 7-2 pot odds to call on the river. I think there is enough chance villain has top pair or a busted draw or something to call. I can't believe all these weak/tight people saying fold because your tournament life is at stake or something. [/ QUOTE ]
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#14
04-10-2006, 03:11 PM
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Re: Donking KK UTG
Betgo,
I can definetely see an argument for calling. Against many opponents I would interpret his line as a busted draw. My folding was a basically read dependent. I played with him for a couple of hours and I hadn't seen villian put lots of chips in wrecklessly and he had also seen me make two calls on big river bets like his against other oponents who I caught on busted draws. Of course he COULD have been putting a move on, which is why I should have pushed the turn. If he had me beat then I hit the ace of hearts on the river and double up.
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#15
04-10-2006, 04:12 PM
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Re: Donking KK UTG
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Betgo, I can definetely see an argument for calling. Against many opponents I would interpret his line as a busted draw. My folding was a basically read dependent. I played with him for a couple of hours and I hadn't seen villian put lots of chips in wrecklessly and he had also seen me make two calls on big river bets like his against other oponents who I caught on busted draws. Of course he COULD have been putting a move on, which is why I should have pushed the turn. If he had me beat then I hit the ace of hearts on the river and double up. [/ QUOTE ] Even if he wasn't making a move, he could think he was ahead with top pair or a lower over pair. I wouldn't give 7-2 that KK is behind. With an overpair and a flush draw, you definately should have pushed the turn.
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