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Old 09-15-2007, 05:39 PM
MyPTBB100isPOOP MyPTBB100isPOOP is offline
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Default Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

I posted this in msnl and got no response, so quite naturally i assume that you all would be crawling to do so!!

Gandolf Vs T.Brunson.

This hand isnt incredibly interesting, but illustrates a question Ive had about top level players, and what statistical, or mathematical knowlege they have commited to memory. It is easy to assemble, using pokerstove, a hand range in which you are getting the right price to call against, but here in a live setting, or even in an online setting, as you couldnt really pop up pokerstove and run the numbers everytime a tough situation came up, what kind of mathematical "facts" have you commited to memory which allow you to make this call. If you know (hypothetically) that the hands he holds which have you beat were TT/55/77, what do you have to have memorized, that would allow you to construct a hand range you could profitably call against.

I.E. I know that I am 12% vs that range, I also know that every flush draw he holds gives me X% more equity every PP I beat gives me X% more equity etc. etc.

Do great players, have memorized, what their equity is vs ranges that beat them, and know specifically how exact hands change that equity?? If not, what is fundamentally common?
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

well obviously todds hand here has to be either a big draw or a set so jman decided correctly he can call getting about 2-1 and with a lot of different draws possible, u dont need a calculator to figure that out
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

In short, yes the truly great players know not only how adding what hands into ranges will change their equity but also how adding half of a hand will change it (i.e. he just calls pre flop half the time with AQ and reraises it the other half so since he called ill add 50% freq. of AQ)
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

OMFG that's not that guy from the avatar is it?
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

one time.........!!! Bump
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Old 09-16-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

LOL Gandolf.

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Old 09-16-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

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well obviously todds hand here has to be either a big draw or a set

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given that it's todd he can probably have KT. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

phil "gandolf" lol ... this actually needs some photoshopaments!
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Vidoe HH, and question from msnl player.

gandolf like the wizard get it.... hahahahah get it....
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