NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd

Flixxx · #1 05-25-2007, 09:50 AM

I fumble both with overpairs and hands like that a lot, so help me again on a line please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] villain is unknown, my first orbit. Am I to push the flop here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($95)
Button ($82.20)
SB ($32.45)
BB ($182.25)
UTG ($94.95)
Hero ($206.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($12) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $30, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($72) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $38, Hero ?

Final Pot: $110

jkkkk · #2 05-25-2007, 10:19 AM

call turn, fold river unimproved

Grunch · #3 05-25-2007, 10:27 AM

Push the flop. As played, push the turn.

joeblack · #4 05-25-2007, 10:29 AM

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call turn, fold river unimproved

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I disagree with pushing the flop. Villian could easily have 66-TT and could call. I call the turn and fold river unimproved.

monkeymaps · #5 05-25-2007, 10:35 AM

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call turn, fold river unimproved

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I disagree with pushing the flop. Villian could easily have 66-TT and could call. I call the turn and fold river unimproved.

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That cuts both ways I play live at these stakes but not online, does push fold out 66-TT at this level most of the time or no?

joeblack · #6 05-25-2007, 10:37 AM

I play live and online at these stakes.

Live - Depending on how solid the villian is.
Solid: Villian folds to a push with 66-99, TT might call. Weak: Villian calls with 66-TT no matter what.

Online I think the villian is more likely to call with 66-TT than live.

jkkkk · #7 05-25-2007, 11:17 AM

I think pushing the flop is horrible.

Grunch · #8 05-25-2007, 11:17 AM

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I think pushing the flop is horrible.

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Why?

Grunch · #9 05-25-2007, 11:18 AM

Maybe a better question is, how much equity do you think we have?

joeblack · #10 05-25-2007, 11:33 AM

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Maybe a better question is, how much equity do you think we have?

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I stated my case above, but I would say online against an unknown we have very little FE. Just a number I am pulling out of the air, but less than 25%.