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Flixxx 05-25-2007 09:50 AM

NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
I fumble both with overpairs and hands like that a lot, so help me again on a line please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] villain is unknown, my first orbit. Am I to push the flop here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($95)
Button ($82.20)
SB ($32.45)
BB ($182.25)
UTG ($94.95)
Hero ($206.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($12) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($72) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $38</font>, Hero ?

Final Pot: $110

jkkkk 05-25-2007 10:19 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
call turn, fold river unimproved

Grunch 05-25-2007 10:27 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
Push the flop. As played, push the turn.

joeblack 05-25-2007 10:29 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
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call turn, fold river unimproved

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I disagree with pushing the flop. Villian could easily have 66-TT and could call. I call the turn and fold river unimproved.

monkeymaps 05-25-2007 10:35 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
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call turn, fold river unimproved

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I disagree with pushing the flop. Villian could easily have 66-TT and could call. I call the turn and fold river unimproved.

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That cuts both ways I play live at these stakes but not online, does push fold out 66-TT at this level most of the time or no?

joeblack 05-25-2007 10:37 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
I play live and online at these stakes.

Live - Depending on how solid the villian is.
Solid: Villian folds to a push with 66-99, TT might call. Weak: Villian calls with 66-TT no matter what.

Online I think the villian is more likely to call with 66-TT than live.

jkkkk 05-25-2007 11:17 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
I think pushing the flop is horrible.

Grunch 05-25-2007 11:17 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
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I think pushing the flop is horrible.

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Why?

Grunch 05-25-2007 11:18 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
Maybe a better question is, how much equity do you think we have?

joeblack 05-25-2007 11:33 AM

Re: NL200 55 flops overpair+oesd
 
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Maybe a better question is, how much equity do you think we have?

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I stated my case above, but I would say online against an unknown we have very little FE. Just a number I am pulling out of the air, but less than 25%.


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