AA Standard fold?

NL__Fool · #1 02-13-2007, 01:54 AM

Villain was 20/4

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Hero ($100.85)
MP1 ($37.75)
MP2 ($67.50)
CO ($40.40)
Button ($34.65)
SB ($40.80)
BB ($50)
UTG ($28)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 5 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $7, Hero raises to $21, BB raises to $48, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $73.25

McDirk · #2 02-13-2007, 01:57 AM

Hmm...tough one. I think much of the time you see Ax of hearts here, especially at this level. Any other reads on villain?

NL__Fool · #3 02-13-2007, 02:01 AM

No reads other then he was 20/4 and that didnt mean much because it was over 25 hands.

Do you really think Ax hearts Check raises the flop then 4 bets all in here?

GiantBuddha · #4 02-13-2007, 02:04 AM

A3hearts does this sometimes, as does JThearts. I think you're against a set or top two pretty often though, too.

GiantBuddha · #5 02-13-2007, 02:14 AM

You're getting almost 3:1 here, but at best you're a 2:1 favorite (unless he's a moron). If he's got a set you're like 9:1 against. So how often does he have to have the draw for you to have a call here? Maybe 3/8ths of the time. Is he semibluffing that often? Probably not.

Etric · #6 02-13-2007, 02:18 AM

Standard, but annoying.

JT hearts is a favorite over this hand anyway.

20/4 players don't do this with Ax hearts unless it is A3 hearts and even then they don't call A3 hearts vs a pfr.

bottomset · #7 02-13-2007, 02:21 AM

you are better off just calling his raise on the flop

GiantBuddha · #8 02-13-2007, 02:23 AM

Against JT hearts this is a call even if you're a slight dog. I've been up against QJ in this spot before, but the guy was more like 60/20.

Etric · #9 02-13-2007, 02:27 AM

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Against JT hearts this is a call even if you're a slight dog. I've been up against QJ in this spot before, but the guy was more like 60/20.

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True, if you knew he had JT hearts, this would be a call.

Against a lag, I'd instacall this.

FWIW, I'd play JT hearts like this and also a set like this.

I Gotta Push · #10 02-13-2007, 02:39 AM

ur a dog against his range, beit draws or made

could call flop and re-eval turn with position