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NL__Fool 02-13-2007 01:54 AM

AA Standard fold?
 
Villain was 20/4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($100.85)
MP1 ($37.75)
MP2 ($67.50)
CO ($40.40)
Button ($34.65)
SB ($40.80)
BB ($50)
UTG ($28)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $48</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $73.25

McDirk 02-13-2007 01:57 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
Hmm...tough one. I think much of the time you see Ax of hearts here, especially at this level. Any other reads on villain?

NL__Fool 02-13-2007 02:01 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
No reads other then he was 20/4 and that didnt mean much because it was over 25 hands.

Do you really think Ax hearts Check raises the flop then 4 bets all in here?

GiantBuddha 02-13-2007 02:04 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
A3hearts does this sometimes, as does JThearts. I think you're against a set or top two pretty often though, too.

GiantBuddha 02-13-2007 02:14 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
You're getting almost 3:1 here, but at best you're a 2:1 favorite (unless he's a moron). If he's got a set you're like 9:1 against. So how often does he have to have the draw for you to have a call here? Maybe 3/8ths of the time. Is he semibluffing that often? Probably not.

Etric 02-13-2007 02:18 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
Standard, but annoying.

JT hearts is a favorite over this hand anyway.

20/4 players don't do this with Ax hearts unless it is A3 hearts and even then they don't call A3 hearts vs a pfr.

bottomset 02-13-2007 02:21 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
you are better off just calling his raise on the flop

GiantBuddha 02-13-2007 02:23 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
Against JT hearts this is a call even if you're a slight dog. I've been up against QJ in this spot before, but the guy was more like 60/20.

Etric 02-13-2007 02:27 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
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Against JT hearts this is a call even if you're a slight dog. I've been up against QJ in this spot before, but the guy was more like 60/20.

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True, if you knew he had JT hearts, this would be a call.

Against a lag, I'd instacall this.

FWIW, I'd play JT hearts like this and also a set like this.

I Gotta Push 02-13-2007 02:39 AM

Re: AA Standard fold?
 
ur a dog against his range, beit draws or made

could call flop and re-eval turn with position


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