5/10 Flopped set. Very stupid mistake.

aes14 · #1 07-14-2006, 09:59 PM

Playing in a 5/10 game 8 people seated at 10 person table.

I am UTG with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I limp. UTG + 1 raises. Fold. Fold SB Fold. BB call. I call.

Flop is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB checks. I check. Villain Raises. BB FOlds. I raise. Villian calls.

Turn is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

I bet. He raises.

AND FOR SOME REASON I CALL. I HAVE VISIONS OF STRAIGHTS DANCING IN MY HEAD! With a preflop raise? How is that possible that I am thinking this? I know. I suck.

River is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

He bets. I CALL.

I suck...This is clearly a huge mistake correct? No way I should fear a straight or AA? Ugh...

This "fear" is probably keeping me from big profits I suppose. There was no logical explanation that he would have a straight. He had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I would have made a lot more money.

shark6 · #2 07-14-2006, 10:11 PM

You said it best:

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No way I should fear a straight or AA? Ugh...

This "fear" is probably keeping me from big profits I suppose.

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You can't achive a high win rate by always putting your opponents on the 1 hand that beats you. Grow a pair and reraise him somewhere.

cheeseman248 · #3 07-14-2006, 10:24 PM

Not a huge mistake. with his raise pre-flop, then check post-flop, he could very easily been slow playing AA, or have another high pair, such as KK or QQ and fear the A flop. I feel your biggest mistake was not re-raising after the turn to try and define his hand. AA would have re-raised right back, another high pair probably would have folded, and a AK, AQ or AJ would have called, and you would have had a much easier time putting him on a hand

cassady · #4 07-14-2006, 11:26 PM

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Not a huge mistake. with his raise pre-flop, then check post-flop, he could very easily been slow playing AA, or have another high pair, such as KK or QQ and fear the A flop. I feel your biggest mistake was not re-raising after the turn to try and define his hand. AA would have re-raised right back, another high pair probably would have folded, and a AK, AQ or AJ would have called, and you would have had a much easier time putting him on a hand

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?

mowz · #5 07-15-2006, 01:03 AM

Are you playing with a proper bankroll? Playing scared like this is usually a symptom of playing above a limit you are comfortable with.

Haupt_234 · #6 07-15-2006, 01:15 AM

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?

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3betting the turn and folding to a cap would just be silly. The pot is too big to fold by then, and there are very few hands that villan will have which beats us.

Haupt_234

aes14 · #7 07-15-2006, 01:23 AM

no, i am not properly bank rolled. 5/10 with 1k

bottomset · #8 07-15-2006, 02:48 AM

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no, i am not properly bank rolled. 5/10 with 1k

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hahahahaha

really dumb to be playing 5/10 with just 1k

digdeep · #9 07-15-2006, 03:34 AM

300x the big bet is the proper bankroll; @ 5/10 - $3000. This multiple ensures you are able to weather the volatility. $1K will go very quickly when you start running cold. Being underfunded leads to passive play, as was the case in this hand.

cassady · #10 07-15-2006, 05:54 AM

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Which kinds of brings up an interesting question: given that we're readless, do we fold to a turn cap, or call down for two more big bets?

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3betting the turn and folding to a cap would just be silly. The pot is too big to fold by then, and there are very few hands that villan will have which beats us.

Haupt_234

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Okay, my standard play here is the call down, but I'm questioning it on further thought.

It's somewhat difficult given the fact that we have no reads, but tell me this: what hands raise PF then cap the turn?

53 isn't a raising hand, even for a maniac. 44 and 66 are also highly unlikely. Given a turn cap and PF raise, I'd put it at pretty long odds that we're up against an AA. Since it would be 2 bets to showdown, we're looking at 5:1 odds. Do you really think anything other than AA would be likely 1 in 6 times? I don't........