200 6m: monster flop draw gone bad

[effinA]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) CP hand converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($248.75)</font>
UTG ($156.52)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($0)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($213.75)</font>
SB ($293.73)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, BB calls $27.

Turn: ($97) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $65</font>, hero ???

villain is very nitty....16/8 or so......

whats a better line on the flop?

[FishSticks]

If the villain is super nitty, I tend to assume he has something when he leads out into the preflop raiser. As played I think you have to fold on the turn, as even if your draw gets there it will be pretty transparent and the board will be scary - I don't think a turn push gives you much FE with this action.

I suppose a flop call is okay, but I think your line gets you a free card on the turn or all in on the flop often enough so I wouldn't second guess yourself too much.

[effinA]

why a fold on the turn? im getting priced if he has aq/a6....even if he has a set or at and i hit on the river hes gonna payoff a small value bet....only kj has me in real trouble.....its a very small edge on the turn....i guess i should have just shoved it on the turn.....cause obv i have no fe on that turn....

[XCEO]

Even if you exclude hands like AA, KJo and KJs from his range you are behind on the turn, so why push if he doesn't fold?

Board: Ac Qc Td 6s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 28.9474 % 28.95% 00.00% { KcTc }
Hand 2: 71.0526 % 71.05% 00.00% { QQ, TT, AQs, ATs, AQo, ATo }

[JKratzer]

is it spew if i always call this turn?

[effinA]

[ QUOTE ]
Even if you exclude hands like AA, KJo and KJs from his range you are behind on the turn, so why push if he doesn't fold?

Board: Ac Qc Td 6s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 28.9474 % 28.95% 00.00% { KcTc }
Hand 2: 71.0526 % 71.05% 00.00% { QQ, TT, AQs, ATs, AQo, ATo }

[/ QUOTE ]

i wasnt talking about pushing...i know by his turn bet hes not folding....is a call outta the question

[XCEO]

oops, shove != push ? (I'm Dutch)

[ArturiusX]

[ QUOTE ]
oops, shove != push ? (I'm Dutch)

[/ QUOTE ]

Shove = push

[luckychewy]

[ QUOTE ]
is it spew if i always call this turn?

[/ QUOTE ]

depends on villain andif you think you have any implied odds

EDIT: your image also plays a pretty big role on occasion

[jmc999]

shove=push all in