WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)

[nath]

relatively new to table, but I just hit a streak where I won four pots in a row (culminating in a knockout of someone with a flopped full with 92 in the BB vs. a turned flush).

Uhh, is he really dumb enough to take this line with a queen? What do I do here, how often do I have to be good, if I call, how big a river bet can I call, etc.

PokerStars Game #5090970295: Tournament #25455352, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/05/29 - 17:01:20 (ET)
Table '25455352 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: J-C AA (10687 in chips)
Seat 2: J9SUITED (16925 in chips)
Seat 3: Cap'nJackpot (20245 in chips)
Seat 4: The X Force (30430 in chips)
Seat 5: yossie (6975 in chips)
Seat 6: BustMe (4778 in chips)
Seat 7: Sooners (2725 in chips)
Seat 9: FlyingSumo (9890 in chips)
J-C AA: posts the ante 25
J9SUITED: posts the ante 25
Cap'nJackpot: posts the ante 25
The X Force: posts the ante 25
yossie: posts the ante 25
BustMe: posts the ante 25
Sooners: posts the ante 25
FlyingSumo: posts the ante 25
The X Force: posts small blind 100
yossie: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cap'nJackpot [Ah 9s]
BustMe: folds
yossie said, "ty krm"
Sooners: folds
FlyingSumo: folds
J-C AA: folds
J9SUITED: raises 400 to 600
Cap'nJackpot: calls 600
The X Force: folds
yossie: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9h Qs]
J9SUITED: bets 200
Cap'nJackpot: calls 200
*** TURN *** [Qc 9h Qs] [7s]
J9SUITED: bets 200
Cap'nJackpot: raises 1050 to 1250
J9SUITED: raises 1050 to 2300
Cap'nJackpot: thinks "LOL WTF"

[0evg0]

J9SUITED is Cloutier's acct, but I've played against some real donks using that account. I really think you have at best 5 outs.

[Ansky]

J9SUITED is Cloutier's acct, but I've played against some real donks using that account. I really think you have at best 5 outs.

I thought J9 of Clubs or something was his account?

Anyway, fold.

And fold preflop.

And prob just call the turn.

[nath]

I thought J9 of Clubs or something was his account?

Yeah, it's J9 of Clubs, not J9SUITED.

And fold preflop.

Look, Nitty McNit might be afraid to play A9 on the button vs. a cutoff raise, but not me. I have position and what rates to likely be the best hand right now (I did consider reraising PF).

[0evg0]

Oh yeah, my bad.

But I know J9SUITED from somewhere. Let me rack my brain or look for notes.

[0evg0]

Yeah, he's actually shown to be decent in my opinion. I don't know WTF this is. Maybe some 3rd level thinking?

I'm calling down here I think. Just because this is weird as hell, and also because I like calling.

[nath]

I really think you have at best 5 outs.

I don't see a hand having 5 outs.

Let's get a range here. Would a queen make these minbets on the flop and turn? Would a player bad enough to not build the pot with trips here be bad enough to make this play without a queen?

I mean, either he has it or he doesn't, right? And if he doesn't, how often is that the case, and what does he have?

[NoahSD]

I agree with Ansky.

[0evg0]

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I really think you have at best 5 outs.

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I don't see a hand having 5 outs.

Let's get a range here. Would a queen make these minbets on the flop and turn? Would a player bad enough to not build the pot with trips here be bad enough to make this play without a queen?

I mean, either he has it or he doesn't, right? And if he doesn't, how often is that the case, and what does he have?

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I'm thinking TT/JJ/KK/AA is more likely than QX for some reason.

Obviously you don't have 5 outs vs AA, but otherwise.

[Foucault]

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I'm calling down here I think.

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I assume you mean calling down as opposed to raising the turn? I think that was they key mistake here. As played, I fold.