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#21
05-30-2006, 12:49 AM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
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I know I put myself in a tough spot this way; the question is, here we are and what do we do about it? [/ QUOTE ] This depends on the player. But your default should be to fold here. Most players don't use the min raise as a bluff, though some do. But you should mainly be concerned with your turn play, that is what put you in this spot. 
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#22
05-30-2006, 01:06 AM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
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[ QUOTE ] I know I put myself in a tough spot this way; the question is, here we are and what do we do about it? [/ QUOTE ] This depends on the player. But your default should be to fold here. Most players don't use the min raise as a bluff, though some do. But you should mainly be concerned with your turn play, that is what put you in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] I understand that for sure. I thought it was flimsy at the time and didn't really consider what to do in this spot since the min-3-raise was about the last thing I thought would happen. The major reason I ask what to do anyway is that while I'll know the leak to correct in the future, in the heat of battle I still have to do something now, with the mess I've made. Next time, I will check the turn, but this time, I still have to come up with a hand for villain and a plan for myself.
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#23
05-30-2006, 02:09 AM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
You are obviously a pretty lagy player. Is it at all possible that he knows this and was (albeit retardly) giving you a chance to move at the pot with some FE? The only hand I can see a decent playing using this strange of a line is QQ. I am not going to go out and say his range is quads and nothing but quads, but I think this is a clear fold.
edit: And I guess I am Nitty McNit, because I am folding this preflop as well. Why give myself the chance to get in sticky situations with enough chips to hurt me (let alone at all)
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#25
05-30-2006, 01:08 PM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
OK, so results.
I called the turn bet because it was so weird and fishy that I was unconvinced villain had a queen and would have minbet it at two streets after raising preflop. In addition, I considered the chance a reraise was a setup, in the sense that his minbets were giving me a chance to bluff with any two and he was going to use that move to his advantage. River came a low blank. Villain bet 1200 and I called with enormous odds. He showed T9c. Ship it. I have no idea what any of this proves, except that an "obvious" show of strength isn't always that. It doesn't mean I'm right about anything, it just means that sometimes people take weird nonsensical lines with weak or marginal holdings, and that every minbet and minraise isn't a big scary monster in the closet.
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#26
05-30-2006, 02:30 PM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
your turn raise shows a total lack of understanding of this game
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#27
05-30-2006, 02:34 PM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
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your turn raise shows a total lack of understanding of this game [/ QUOTE ] do you think he should just call and get to a showdown???
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#29
05-30-2006, 02:47 PM
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Re: WTF do i do about minbet-minreraisers (Stars $55r)
I mean, is he raising for value? I'd think a vast majority of the time better hands call and worse hands fold. The big problem is that nath said his reason for raising is that he thought the other guy was full of it, which seems like a classic reason for calling.
-Jason
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