Great laydown, or am I retarded? FT 3/6

[MicroBob]

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To analyze this I start to think about how often our hand is good by the river here. If we believe the stats given it can't be very often, I would guess JJ is good about 5% by the river when we take our decision on the turn.

The good thing is that our outs is probably clean. The Jc gives us the nuts and a FD is not that likely so the Js will win the pot like 90-95% i reckon. If we only draw to our J outs and intend to fold UI on river we clearly don't get the odds we need. What if we plan to call river UI? I put the expected pot size (our second bet on turn and bets on river excluded) to 15BB. Then JJ needs to be good 8% against theese two players on the river. Given the action, player stats and the possible redraws that can hurt us, I don't think we can proceed.

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If one is drawing and the other gets gun-shy with just a T then there's a chance that an A or K on the river would end up getting checked-around for a free-showdown.

Not saying it's a guarantee or anything. But I've been including some weird drawing possibilities for the last player and if that's the case I don't think he's going to fire a bluff at the end against 2 opponents.

So I still think we're close to being able to call.
But that dude raising with a 0.3AF is still pissing me off so I really don't know.