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Old 08-31-2007, 10:33 PM
timeonepointzero timeonepointzero is offline
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Default Need some guidance

I've recently started to play online poker, and I need some guidance since I'm just losing money left and right (and if I'm not losing money I'm just barely breaking even.)

I've gotten poker tracker, and game time. Read though SSHE several times, read though a bunch of other poker books too. Recently picked up Winning in Tough Hold'em Games and working on understanding and comprehending everything that's in there.

I'm mainly palying
0.02/0.04 (10 players)
0.05/0.10 (10 players)

and every now and then I touch 0.25/0.50

It would be great if someone is able to mentor me for a bit until I get the hang of things as I'm not really sure what to do anymore.

edit: here are my PT stats

http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?i...atscopyce3.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ts2copyjy9.jpg

(I think I'm playing a bit too loose since my V$IP is kind of high).

Also what other books would you recommend for nano?
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:40 PM
MrWookie MrWookie is offline
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Default Re: Need some guidance

WITHG is not a great book to be focusing on if you're playing at the nanos and are having difficulties with fundamentals. I'd shelve it for, like, a year from now.
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Need some guidance

Session Reviews are the best way to go.

This FAQ should tell you all you need to know. Next sign up should be withinn the next week or so.
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Need some guidance

My advice is to find the aim list and have someone sweat a session. I realize this is weak, but worth a shot. Sounds like you really need to be talked through a hand or two.

Also, perhaps, try writing out all the quiz questions in a given chapter SSHE in say Notepad, and print out the quiz and take it, checking your answers after you are done. i.e. in the text, the answers are listed just after each question, which is not conducive to learning. If you fail, reread a chapter then take the quiz again.

Finally, if you are still having issues, I suggest trying your hand at this hobby instead (NSFW)

Buzz
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:34 AM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: Need some guidance

welcome to the forums.

I only took a quick look at the stats but your VPIP 44% and that is WAY WAY WAY too high for full ring games. You need to get a starting hand chart. A starting hand chart will get you down to sub 20%.

if you want to get better at poker then stick around 2+2. oh and as Wookie says "winning in tough holdem games" is notthe book you want. Consider Getting Started in Holdem or Small STakes holdem

ozi
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:23 AM
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I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you, and all the other players out there like you. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Seriously dude, if you have read those books, you need to re-read them and try and retain some of the information in your brain. Then you need to apply some of it when you are playing poker. Your sample size is waaay too small, but your numbers are fuked up. You are seeing WAAAY too many flops and your showdown numbers are wack. You are calling down too much. Don't think you can be a winning player until you can fold a pair or AK unimproved. You seriously need to learn how to fold.

Good Luck,
Ben
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:32 AM
Xylocain Xylocain is offline
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Your agression factor is also pretty high for vpip 44. Not only are you calling with worse hands, you are betting and raising your worse hands?

[edit]um, maybe add som content too. get you vpip to 15 your pfr to 7.5 and and remember that valutebetting your good hands is >>>>>>>> bluffing bad players [/edit]
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:14 AM
n1_pete n1_pete is offline
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Session reviews will help enormously. no point reading SSHE several times if you're not actually thinking about your next moves, planning ahead and reading your opponents better.

once you've done that maybe try start on .15/.30 where you're a little less likely to be drawn out on all the time. some might disagree but if i can win every session by some margin at this level then anyone can (that's probably not a bold statement for partypoker! lol!!)

this is a good thread for you to read 'Why do I Suck so Bad'
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:28 AM
timeonepointzero timeonepointzero is offline
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Default Re: Need some guidance

I'm gonna ask a few more questions in this thread instead of making a new thread.

1. I'm looking at URL DELETED (ed miller's preflop hand chart that OhGeeTee remade) what does C4, C3 mean? and the x under the BB column is suppose to mean?

2. I also think I'm having trouble applying/understanding odds when I'm at the table. Pre-Flop I count the number of players in and everything but post-flop I lose track. Is there any book/online articles that shows the thinking process behind this

Thanks for the advice given so far, I'll start to adjust a bit more and see how I do.

mod edit: I have deleted the link as a precautionary measure because of copyright issues. sry. x means you check it in the BB and C3 and C4 talk is the min number of callers you need to call yourself - or something like that...see fabadams post
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:00 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
I'm gonna ask a few more questions in this thread instead of making a new thread.

1. I'm looking at URL DELETED (ed miller's preflop hand chart that OhGeeTee remade) what does C4, C3 mean? and the x under the BB column is suppose to mean?

2. I also think I'm having trouble applying/understanding odds when I'm at the table. Pre-Flop I count the number of players in and everything but post-flop I lose track. Is there any book/online articles that shows the thinking process behind this

Thanks for the advice given so far, I'll start to adjust a bit more and see how I do.

[/ QUOTE ]

1.C3 = Call if 3 or more have entered the pot, fold otherwise. x = check.

2. Read SSHE. Then read it again. Proceed until understanding sets in. It's all in there, and you won't find anywhere that explains it more clearly.
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