Calling off all your chips with 99

[Jurollo]

Again, I am not arguing that it is marginally +cEV, however, I think you can find a better spot than calling with a vulnerable hand, which should be figured into the equation as well.
~Justin

[Ansky]

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If it isn't cEV+ based on a tight range I obviously would advocate a fold.

I'm saying that for jurollo to advocate a fold given the range he assigned-- is pretty bad.

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I didnt assign the range, I simply plugged Sam's in, my range would be tighter.
~Justin

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And I quote:

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Hand 1: 55.7040 % 55.09% 00.61% { 99 }
Hand 2: 44.2960 % 43.69% 00.61% { 22+, A9s+, KQs, A9o+ }

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Even with this I am probably still not calling

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You have yet to justify passing on what you percieve to be a cEV+ situation. That is all I am saying.

[Jurollo]

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Exactly, in the long run you are calling when you are about 50/50 I think you are going to have a better spot to take a chance with better odds and folding equity on your side.
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I did.

[Ansky]

Wrong quote but I get the point.

If you are in fact 55% against his range, with 9 big blinds when average is about twice that, you'd be lucky to somehow find a better equity spot than that in a tournament like this.

[Jurollo]

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Wrong quote but I get the point.

If you are in fact 55% against his range, with 9 big blinds when average is about twice that, you'd be lucky to somehow find a better equity spot than that in a tournament like this.

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I won't argue with you there, however, I think this is FAR from a slam dunk.

[shaniac]

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in a tournament like this.


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The way party structures the Sunday tournaments, this is exactly the type of tourney where u can consider it. The levels are long and there are no antes. In a similar situation on Stars I agree it's a no-brainer, but here I think it's worth considering both options.

[Ansky]

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The way party structures the Sunday tournaments, this is exactly the type of tourney where u can consider it. The levels are long and there are no antes. In a similar situation on Stars I agree it's a no-brainer, but here I think it's worth considering both options.

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The structure is good but not great, and with 300 players left I see no reason to consider survival a priority. The payouts barely increase at all until you start getting real deep.

You arent going to get chips to go deep by passing on 55% edges.

[$hort$tacked]

I agree that this not a perfect, ideal spot but you need to gamble and accumulate chips. As Ansky said, there is a long way to serious money and your not going to get there by passing up small edges. I call, close my eyes, and then hold my breath.

-$$

[bugstud]

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in a tournament like this.


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The way party structures the Sunday tournaments, this is exactly the type of tourney where u can consider it. The levels are long and there are no antes. In a similar situation on Stars I agree it's a no-brainer, but here I think it's worth considering both options.

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so, if not 99, what?

[Jurollo]

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in a tournament like this.


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The way party structures the Sunday tournaments, this is exactly the type of tourney where u can consider it. The levels are long and there are no antes. In a similar situation on Stars I agree it's a no-brainer, but here I think it's worth considering both options.

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so, if not 99, what?

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TT obviously