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shaniac 01-01-2006 09:38 PM

Calling off all your chips with 99
 
Like 300 players left in Party 500K guaranteed.

Blinds are 500/1K, avg stack about 17K, and I have 9K on the button. MP open pushes for 11K. Call or fold 99?

Ansky 01-01-2006 09:41 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
call. by a lot...

I'd like to hear your reasoning for why you'd fold here.

Jurollo 01-01-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
I'm folding just because you are on the button and will have other chances in the next orbit to be the raiser instead of the caller. Also is this late middle or early middle if this is MP3 doing this I would consider it because his range would undoubtedly be a little larger on a steal attempt.
~Justin

Sam T. 01-01-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
Reads? Are we on the bubble?

With no antes villain's got 11BB which isn't a lot, but he's not on life support either. It seems pretty optimistic to think he's doing this with Ax where X<9; I'd go with A9+, KQs+, 22+. Pokerstove could give you a maths answer, but I don't think I'm calling here. (If pokerstove says call, I'll change my mind.)

Jurollo 01-01-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
Hand 1: 55.7040 % 55.09% 00.61% { 99 }
Hand 2: 44.2960 % 43.69% 00.61% { 22+, A9s+, KQs, A9o+ }

shaniac 01-01-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
He was in MP/LP. Two players to act between the raiser and me, on the button.

Raiser seems like normal/tight-type Party player.

We are in the money.

Jurollo 01-01-2006 09:53 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: 55.7040 % 55.09% 00.61% { 99 }
Hand 2: 44.2960 % 43.69% 00.61% { 22+, A9s+, KQs, A9o+ }

[/ QUOTE ]
Even with this I am probably still not calling

Sam T. 01-01-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: 55.7040 % 55.09% 00.61% { 99 }
Hand 2: 44.2960 % 43.69% 00.61% { 22+, A9s+, KQs, A9o+ }

[/ QUOTE ]
Even with this I am probably still not calling

[/ QUOTE ]

Upon what range do you put the villain? Or is this a case where you take a pass on the +EV situation here on the assumption you can find a better spot (as the aggressor) later?

Ansky 01-01-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: 55.7040 % 55.09% 00.61% { 99 }
Hand 2: 44.2960 % 43.69% 00.61% { 22+, A9s+, KQs, A9o+ }

[/ QUOTE ]
Even with this I am probably still not calling

[/ QUOTE ]

Making a statement like this without an explantion is absurd.

Jurollo 01-01-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Calling off all your chips with 99
 
Exactly, in the long run you are calling when you are about 50/50 I think you are going to have a better spot to take a chance with better odds and folding equity on your side.
~Justin


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