(24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?

[Mariogs379]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2881662403: $22 + $2 Sit & Go (Turbo) (21986655), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:34:44 ET - 2007/07/07
Seat 2: ooMONEYoo (2,560)
Seat 6: mbayerl (5,295)
Seat 8: Cheque Magnet (3,050)
Seat 9: Hero (2,595)
Hero posts the small blind of 60
ooMONEYoo posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ts Tc]
mbayerl folds
Cheque Magnet raises to 3,050, and is all in
Hero...

[Mariogs379]

according to sngpt, villain has to shove very loose for me to call with 1010
are you folding JJ...
it all depends on villain's range, what do you think?
QQ = instacall for me

[KyleH186]

Weird hand. This may be completely wrong, but for some reason I think this is a call. Not because of shove ranges though. To me it seems like a situation where the range is capped at 99, or AJs. If you had AQ+, or 10s+, why would you shove into only one person with the blinds as small as they are. I think this becomes a read situation, and low pocket pairs, Ax lower than 10 become a lot more likely than any hand that has you beat.


edit: I read the hand history wrong....hes shoving into two people? That makes things a little weirder. It honestly doesn't seem like he wants a call here with such a huge raise. Would someone even be right to shove qj or qk in his spot? I really think you are ahead of his range here.

[Mariogs379]

the thing is i'm not worried about being ahead of his range
i'm definitely ahead of his range here
if he's shoving 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ I'm raping his range but sngpt says to only call with JJ+...
see what i mean?

[ADLinden]

i fold

[KyleH186]

I dunno if you can even do this on SNGPT, but can you eliminate QQ, KK, AA, AKo, AKs, and maybe even JJ from his range? Does it make 10 10 a call then?

[kyro]

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I dunno if you can even do this on SNGPT, but can you eliminate QQ, KK, AA, AKo, AKs, and maybe even JJ from his range? Does it make 10 10 a call then?

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You should be able to. I'd keep JJ in there but probably throw out AA/KK and possibly QQ. I would probably call but I'm not sure of it.

[ymu]

I think you can safely exclude QQ-AA from his range, but a read would help.

You've been on his right throughout the tourney - what's the history of BvB between you? Have you outplayed him on a lot of flops, have you defended a lot of blinds to an open raise from him?

I think it's a call because I don't think he's strong here - and it would be very strange for him to be doing this with a hand that has you dominated, but quite likely for him to be doing it with one that you have dominated.

Not a terrible fold either.

[Pudge714]

This seems like a call you need 63% equity to call and a lot of his range is Ax or small PPs.

[KoreanBuffet]

I think you can eliminate alot of big hands from his range b/c of the shove at this level. I think this is a call b/c we know he isnt shoving any super strong hands here...but I think i could find a fold here as well. awkward situation.