(24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

Full Tilt Poker Game #2881662403: $22 + $2 Sit & Go (Turbo) (21986655), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:34:44 ET - 2007/07/07
Seat 2: ooMONEYoo (2,560)
Seat 6: mbayerl (5,295)
Seat 8: Cheque Magnet (3,050)
Seat 9: Hero (2,595)
Hero posts the small blind of 60
ooMONEYoo posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ts Tc]
mbayerl folds
Cheque Magnet raises to 3,050, and is all in
Hero...

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

according to sngpt, villain has to shove very loose for me to call with 1010
are you folding JJ...
it all depends on villain's range, what do you think?
QQ = instacall for me

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

Weird hand. This may be completely wrong, but for some reason I think this is a call. Not because of shove ranges though. To me it seems like a situation where the range is capped at 99, or AJs. If you had AQ+, or 10s+, why would you shove into only one person with the blinds as small as they are. I think this becomes a read situation, and low pocket pairs, Ax lower than 10 become a lot more likely than any hand that has you beat.


edit: I read the hand history wrong....hes shoving into two people? That makes things a little weirder. It honestly doesn't seem like he wants a call here with such a huge raise. Would someone even be right to shove qj or qk in his spot? I really think you are ahead of his range here.

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

the thing is i'm not worried about being ahead of his range
i'm definitely ahead of his range here
if he's shoving 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ I'm raping his range but sngpt says to only call with JJ+...
see what i mean?

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

i fold

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

I dunno if you can even do this on SNGPT, but can you eliminate QQ, KK, AA, AKo, AKs, and maybe even JJ from his range? Does it make 10 10 a call then?

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

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I dunno if you can even do this on SNGPT, but can you eliminate QQ, KK, AA, AKo, AKs, and maybe even JJ from his range? Does it make 10 10 a call then?

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You should be able to. I'd keep JJ in there but probably throw out AA/KK and possibly QQ. I would probably call but I'm not sure of it.

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

I think you can safely exclude QQ-AA from his range, but a read would help.

You've been on his right throughout the tourney - what's the history of BvB between you? Have you outplayed him on a lot of flops, have you defended a lot of blinds to an open raise from him?

I think it's a call because I don't think he's strong here - and it would be very strange for him to be doing this with a hand that has you dominated, but quite likely for him to be doing it with one that you have dominated.

Not a terrible fold either.

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

This seems like a call you need 63% equity to call and a lot of his range is Ax or small PPs.

Re: (24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?
 

I think you can eliminate alot of big hands from his range b/c of the shove at this level. I think this is a call b/c we know he isnt shoving any super strong hands here...but I think i could find a fold here as well. awkward situation.