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Old 05-17-2007, 12:11 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

I would call on the flop if BB is a weak player and I feel like I can get him off 77 + 88. Ir represent a flush given position + future action.

If he has a set, he'll tell me on a non-diamond turn and I can proceed from there. I'm not really worried about A, K, Q on the turn given the action. He might be, though.

I'm not that worried about the players behind me given this flop and I'm getting better than 4:1 to gamble with BB and his weak lead.

Folding is fine too, but it's closer than some are leading on to.

Barry
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

I think calling on the flop is the worst option because we (and I'm guessing certainly Nath) wouldn't play the more reasonable part of our EP raising range like that on that board with two left to act, this shallow.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

before i read on you only have 2 options. raise big and represent a big hand or fold. id fold w 2 players still to act. probably raise w only 1 left . callling stinks. invites other callers and says im not strong. by the way i don't like the open raise w 66 here and if i do its a bluff and needs to be bigger raise
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:21 PM
NickdaNutz NickdaNutz is offline
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

yes I know there were 3 callers total. I was referring to the 2 behind us.....the 2 players that we are out of postion to.

I assume that if we are heads up versus the BB we are playing the pot for sure.

ok, I assume this is a spot where you would cbet for sure right? well, how much would you cbet? the pot is ~4500 by my estimation. I would have cbet 3500 or 3750. With the weak lead by the BB you can basically raise it to that amount and rep an overpair. It would also look stonger than just a cbet no?
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

with all these callers easy fold.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

Obvious flop fold. Preflop you want a reasonably tight image and table before I like this.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

PF=Fine except I'm probably taking it to 3xBB just so you aren't giving as good of odds especially to big stacks in blinds


Flop = Ughh with 2 ppl left to act unfortunately I think you have to fold
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:02 PM
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OK, looks like fold is the consensus. I actually didn't fold, even though I thought I probably should have; I decided for the cheap price that it was plausible for him to have a draw, and I could get away if further action developed. I now think that too many factors have to break my way for me to win this pot and I'm better off folding.

The board blanked off and we checked through; he ended up having 9c5c.
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

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OK, looks like fold is the consensus. I actually didn't fold, even though I thought I probably should have; I decided for the cheap price that it was plausible for him to have a draw, and I could get away if further action developed. I now think that too many factors have to break my way for me to win this pot and I'm better off folding.

The board blanked off and we checked through; he ended up having 9c5c.

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Nath,

So you called? Once you call and he checks a blank turn, you don't plan on firing anymore? do you really expect to see a 9, and now that the turn is a blank and he checks HU, is there no value with firing a PSB here (which would have taken him off his 9 and gotten value out of a flush)?
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: 66 hand from Stars $320

I was a little confused by your post, so sorry if my response is irrelevant, but I think the guy c/f's his 9 on the turn basically never.
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