Dare I say it

[Ansky]

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Rather than HSMTT and LSMTT, what if we had MTT Advanced Topics and MTT Basic Topics.

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Finally a word of reason. Splitting by buy-in is meaningless, when players with less than one months experience under the belt satellite into Star's million by the thousands every week.

"Advanced MTT strategy" should be all it takes, and maybe a mod or two with a firm hand to move the "Should I have folded my KK preflop?" type posts into the MTT forum.

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This terrible idea is really hurting our cause.

There is literally no way this could work, simply because so many people would decide they are thinking about advanced strategy and be posting so much crap in it. Everywhere else is seperated by stakes, and while it isnt a perfect split it is the best possible one.

[wpr101]

I support. I mean we have 5 forums for NL cash... I don't see why two for tournaments (non-sng) is a problem.

[tinty]

Speaking as a low stakes player a buy-in split sounds like a good idea to me-
1)posts not lost so quickly thus more replies and easier to find(applicable for both but esp low stakes, this improved organisation can only be beneficial
2)nothing to stop low stakers reading in other forum as they approach more advanced concepts and higher buy ins
3)lots of good players still play tourneys up to $50 buy in such as 55k so would hopefully/presumably still respond/post there

i think it makes a lot of sense and would make posting/responding more effective at both levels and by making things less frustrating and easier for the higher stakes players whilst making little or no difference to low stakes players. this i believe would serve to encourage these higher limits players to post more mtt strat ( although in their new forum) which can only be of benefit the whole mtt community looking to advance their game.

[Sherman]

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Rather than HSMTT and LSMTT, what if we had MTT Advanced Topics and MTT Basic Topics.

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Finally a word of reason. Splitting by buy-in is meaningless, when players with less than one months experience under the belt satellite into Star's million by the thousands every week.

"Advanced MTT strategy" should be all it takes, and maybe a mod or two with a firm hand to move the "Should I have folded my KK preflop?" type posts into the MTT forum.

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This terrible idea is really hurting our cause.

There is literally no way this could work, simply because so many people would decide they are thinking about advanced strategy and be posting so much crap in it. Everywhere else is seperated by stakes, and while it isnt a perfect split it is the best possible one.

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While I understand your point, I disagree that there "is literally no way this could work." Seriously, it would be almsot exclusively high stakes posters in the advanced forum anyway.

Also, we don't know that splitting by stakes is the best possible way if we have never tried it any other way.

Anyhow, like I said, if it is just splitting hairs I don't want to make a big deal out of it. Just throwing the idea out there.

[wpr101]

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Rather than HSMTT and LSMTT, what if we had MTT Advanced Topics and MTT Basic Topics.

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Finally a word of reason. Splitting by buy-in is meaningless, when players with less than one months experience under the belt satellite into Star's million by the thousands every week.

"Advanced MTT strategy" should be all it takes, and maybe a mod or two with a firm hand to move the "Should I have folded my KK preflop?" type posts into the MTT forum.

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This terrible idea is really hurting our cause.

There is literally no way this could work, simply because so many people would decide they are thinking about advanced strategy and be posting so much crap in it. Everywhere else is seperated by stakes, and while it isnt a perfect split it is the best possible one.

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While I understand your point, I disagree that there "is literally no way this could work." Seriously, it would be almsot exclusively high stakes posters in the advanced forum anyway.

Also, we don't know that splitting by stakes is the best possible way if we have never tried it any other way.

Anyhow, like I said, if it is just splitting hairs I don't want to make a big deal out of it. Just throwing the idea out there.

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It depends how when define advanced...

[shaniac]

I can't believe this is still being debated.

[mikeymer]

i dont care either way. but i remember once in a while id read a post in MTTs and be floored, as something clicked in my head and made me a much better poker player, and there isn't content like that anymore.

[shaniac]

There are hands and and situations and concepts I sometimes consider posting but don't because MTTS sucks.

Despite my general aversion to talking about strategy, I used to do that occasionally on 2+2 MTT boards--take part in discussion related to poker strategy. The reason I don't anymore is because I don't think there's an audience out there to receive it in MTTs and create a good discussion about tournaments (and I'm obviously too stupid to discuss cash games). No one I know is drawn to the current MTTS board and they find their strategic info elsewhere.

I'm not reading through this thread again to see where the resistance is. Either keep MTTS the way it is--sucky--or try to breath some life back into it by creating a high-stakes board.

[MLG]

I used to be incredibly active and obviously i scaled my involvement back a large degree. I think that a forum split would entice me to post more again, and had there been a split 6 months ago I would probably still be just as active now as I was a year or 18 months ago. I put a lot of time into my strategy posts and at some point stopped doing them for my benefit as much as for the forums benefit. That is, I posted hands or concepts that I thought would provoke interesting debate, and that people could learn from. I spent a lot of time and energy making these posts because I enjoyed talking about (and to a certain extent teaching) poker. However, given the current climate of MTTs I just stopped finding it worth my time. The majority of posters now arent particularly interested in thinking about the things that you need to think about after you advance from being a winner at a very basic level. Thats fine, and thats certainly their right. But after a certain point I no longer find it worth my time to put thought and energy into something and have it drop like a stone to the third page. There isnt anything wrong with that per se, its just a comment on what the forum is intersted in at the current time. However, to suggest that a forum split isnt a good idea because it would hurt beginners is silly. They often aren't interested in what i would post, and if they were, they could read and respond anyway. To suggest it wouldnt get enough traffic seems silly as the thread suggests there are any number of high stakes tournament players that feel the same way I do. So really I have a hard time seeing why it would be a bad idea. As Bond says its just really for organizational purposes to keep the posts that high stakes posters spend their time and energy on from getting lost in the flood of lower stakes posts that should and do predominate MTTs.

[adanthar]

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I used to be incredibly active and obviously i scaled my involvement back a large degree. I think that a forum split would entice me to post more again, and had there been a split 6 months ago I would probably still be just as active now as I was a year or 18 months ago. I put a lot of time into my strategy posts and at some point stopped doing them for my benefit as much as for the forums benefit. That is, I posted hands or concepts that I thought would provoke interesting debate, and that people could learn from. I spent a lot of time and energy making these posts because I enjoyed talking about (and to a certain extent teaching) poker. However, given the current climate of MTTs I just stopped finding it worth my time. The majority of posters now arent particularly interested in thinking about the things that you need to think about after you advance from being a winner at a very basic level. Thats fine, and thats certainly their right. But after a certain point I no longer find it worth my time to put thought and energy into something and have it drop like a stone to the third page. There isnt anything wrong with that per se, its just a comment on what the forum is intersted in at the current time. However, to suggest that a forum split isnt a good idea because it would hurt beginners is silly. They often aren't interested in what i would post, and if they were, they could read and respond anyway. To suggest it wouldnt get enough traffic seems silly as the thread suggests there are any number of high stakes tournament players that feel the same way I do. So really I have a hard time seeing why it would be a bad idea. As Bond says its just really for organizational purposes to keep the posts that high stakes posters spend their time and energy on from getting lost in the flood of lower stakes posts that should and do predominate MTTs.

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what mlg said. srsly.