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Old 03-11-2007, 03:53 AM
jlkrusty jlkrusty is offline
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

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I folded them a week ago preflop, and i think this is an EZ fold without reads on MP being a donk, AceCR9, wow, your getting stacked here then

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thanks for letting me know how wrong I was. I really appreciate the advice.

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results orientated much?

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they had [censored] jacks and tens. that you EVER see jacks and tens means this cannot possibly be a fold at this site in this game vs these people

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Look at the hand range Josh gave them before even I posted results. With Josh's tighter hand range (that included neither TT or JJ for either opponent), you can still prove that it is slightly +EV to push the KK.

Whatever percentage you can through in hands like like JJ or TT just makes the push more profitible, even if this makes up only 1% of your opponents hand range.

This is pretty straightforward stuff.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

surprised this thread still gets 8pgs of replies
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:29 AM
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

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surprised this thread still gets 8pgs of replies

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8? Only 1 for me. OP they tried to give you their money, why didn't you take it? Sucks they had those hands but more often this is AA and something else.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

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surprised this thread still gets 8pgs of replies

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8? Only 1 for me. OP they tried to give you their money, why didn't you take it? Sucks they had those hands but more often this is AA and something else.

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u have ur 2+2 setting set different maybe
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

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4th bet isn't always AA anymore, obviously. Back then, probably . Here, probably.

One has to wonder, if you can't reason for a fold here, apparently you never can unless you're insanely deep. I can't imagine one buy in facing more heat preflop.

I think this is a fold, I don't think MP is doing this light against the SB's move, or with AK often enough to justify getting your stack in. I really don't think he ever has QQ here either.

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Words like these should not be allowed in discussions, they don't help in proving anything.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:58 AM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

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I folded them a week ago preflop, and i think this is an EZ fold without reads on MP being a donk, AceCR9, wow, your getting stacked here then

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thanks for letting me know how wrong I was. I really appreciate the advice.

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results orientated much?

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they had [censored] jacks and tens. that you EVER see jacks and tens means this cannot possibly be a fold at this site in this game vs these people

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meh, i don't play on stars but where i play one of these 2 has aces 90% of teh time at least. seeing jacks and tens ONCE isn't a good reason to say KK AI GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?

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When I originally read this thread, I agreed completely with yellowsubs below statement.

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the 600nl game plays too crazy to ever be laying down kk pre for 1 buyin.

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Yep!

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ship it
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