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jlkrusty 03-09-2007 05:55 AM

Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($482)
Hero ($719)
SB ($609)
BB ($684)
UTG ($199.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $58</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $192</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $482</font>, Hero???

Here's what I've observed about my opponents:

MP: A solid TAG player who seemed to play smart. I don't remember him getting grossly out of line. After 141 hands, I had his stats at 23/16 (with a post flop aggression factor of 3.3).

SB: Tight and very aggressive player capable of making moves. After 305 hands, I had his stats at 24/19 (with a post flop aggression factor of 5.2).

So, what do I do? Never fold KK preflop, right?

soah 03-09-2007 06:00 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
I'm folding here.

NLfool 03-09-2007 06:01 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
when pigs fly in my Mr. Burns voice. Def looks like a fold to me.

jlkrusty 03-09-2007 06:12 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
[ QUOTE ]
when pigs fly in my Mr. Burns voice. Def looks like a fold to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Lol. That may be my favorite Simpson's episode. I want to hire Mr. Burns as my poker coach.

jlkrusty 03-09-2007 06:13 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
Which of you guys would not fold this?

chef 03-09-2007 06:20 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
In theory i think i would fold. In game is another story.

jlkrusty 03-09-2007 06:32 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
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In theory i think i would fold. In game is another story.

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Usually when people post their KK preflop hands, they get railed on for trying to find ways to fold KK too much. Thus, I've just sort of adopted the belief that I should never fold KK preflop.

Maybe a better question might be, "When was the last time you folded KK preflop?"

Jeff W 03-09-2007 06:34 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
Yeah, this is definitely a fold.

Scottery 03-09-2007 07:52 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
Who said that the 4th bet is always Aces?... Anyways..

Considering the action i would puke and probably fold, and i never fold KK.

yellowsub 03-09-2007 07:59 AM

Re: Never fold KK preflop, right?!?!?
 
i wouldnt fold here

the 600nl game plays too crazy to ever be laying down kk pre for 1 buyin. u will see AK/QQ here enough to justify yer call. only way this gets interesting is if yer 1200+ deep


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