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#12
02-15-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
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... I don't get the river bet at all. What was it trying to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] River bet was for value after the 8 that was probably no help to the villain. I decided that I had the best hand and would bet in case he checked after me. 
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#13
02-15-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
I 3-bet the flop and call a cap.
I would lead the turn and just call down from there without any further improvement. On the flop, your hand is extremely strong and can withstand a lot of head, hence my advocation for 3-betting. Lead the turn because you improved, and it sets up a nice river C/R if you improve further.
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#14
02-15-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
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[ QUOTE ] ... I don't get the river bet at all. What was it trying to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] River bet was for value after the 8 that was probably no help to the villain. I decided that I had the best hand and would bet in case he checked after me. [/ QUOTE ] You are correct, but you just need to have that thought a little earlier and raise the turn. If you decide on the river that you are ahead when the card doesn't help you, than you should have felt you were ahead on the turn and value bet/raised.
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#15
02-15-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
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I 3-bet the flop and call a cap. I would lead the turn and just call down from there without any further improvement. On the flop, your hand is extremely strong and can withstand a lot of head, hence my advocation for 3-betting. Lead the turn because you improved, and it sets up a nice river C/R if you improve further. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I've not tried that. My suspicion is that villains seeing me 3-bet flop and lead turn, would be happy to check through on the river if I don't bet it. I usually make sure to lead the river to make sure I get at least one more bet in. Hmmm.
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#16
02-15-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
I mean, if he raises the turn, you call down.
Lead the river if he just calls the turn and/or you improve. Don't FPS a C/R. But try one if he raises the turn (and your improve).
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#18
02-15-2007, 05:22 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
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[ QUOTE ] ... I don't get the river bet at all. What was it trying to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] River bet was for value after the 8 that was probably no help to the villain. I decided that I had the best hand and would bet in case he checked after me. [/ QUOTE ] If this is the case, then yeah, I stand by capping the turn instead (especially with BB playing his hand like a draw). The common reason I would have for calling a turn raise and then donking the river UI is I had a read that Villain uses free showdown raises. Without knowing that, I'd assume he'd bet the river like 100% of the time on a non-scare card.
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#19
02-15-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
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[ QUOTE ] ... I don't get the river bet at all. What was it trying to accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] River bet was for value after the 8 that was probably no help to the villain. I decided that I had the best hand and would bet in case he checked after me. [/ QUOTE ] If you thought you had the best hand, you also had it on the turn, so you should've capped when you had the other guy trapped.
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#20
02-15-2007, 05:31 PM
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Re: Busted flush leaves 2-pair
"grunch"
I would have checked on the flop and called his probable bet. On the turn I would have check-raised and if he came over the top then call to a show down. If he doesn't come over the top then bet to the showdown. The only realistic hands villian can have that should concern you are A-A, A-J and J-J. Looks to me like he's playing A-K. I did miss A-J originally.
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