Discussion: Common preflop situations

[Rev. Good Will]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
<font color="blue">repot that holla</font>

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
<font color="blue"> I Limp/fold this vs unknowns, if CO had a high fold to cbet, I'd raise</font>

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

<font color="blue">grrr... I might fold this and be peeved. I like this hand in Limit, so it's hard for me</font>

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

<font color="blue">call normally for set value, had the raise been from CO or later, I would repop this to pot/slightly under pot a large part of the time. If I know UTG was a loose raiser, I would also repop this most of the time.</font>

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>
<font color="blue">absolutely readless and no history at the table? Fold, If I haven't played a hand in a few orbits, or have shown down a monster recently, I raise to pot or 4xbb</font>

Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
<font color="blue"> usually raise this to 4xbb</font>

Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
<font color="blue"> I've been folding this... I feel like I should call though</font>

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
<font color="blue">default is to fold.</font>


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[Dennisa]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

I prefer just to call with jacks. You have position over the preflop raiser. By three betting it will be very easy to play for stacks, but I think by keeping the pot smaller, you can float this hand much better and try to take it away just on the origianlal raisers being out of position.

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

You can raise or just overcall.

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Fold, this one can be dominated too easy and not enough to just call for flush value.

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Call for set value. Posibly call c-bet with just one over and try to take pot away on the river if it gets checked thru on the turn.

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Fold. T9 can get in trouble if it flops top two or bottom str8 as bigger hands can be made since the cards that you need are in the playing zone. See Supersystem for longer explanation. I'd much rather have 76 or 87 in this situation, and then raise with them.



Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
Raise try to win blinds, cbet if you dont flop a set and if you flop a set, extract as much as you can, its going to be a hidden set.

Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>
raise and c-bet

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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fold or possibly call if MP is a station.

[M4in]

#1 --&gt; Raise to about 8
#2 --&gt; Call
#3 --&gt; Bleh, call, hate playing out of position
#4 --&gt; Raise to 6
#5 --&gt; Raise to 2
#6 --&gt; Raise to 2.5
#7 --&gt; Raise to 3
#8 --&gt; Fold

[matrix]

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#3 --&gt; Bleh, call, hate playing out of position

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if you hate playing OOP why why why why whyyyyyyy call? you're setting yourself up for misery.

[Sean Fraley]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero reraises to $8.</font>

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero completes.</font>

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero calls. </font>

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero calls.</font>

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero folds. </font>

Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero raises to $2.50.</font>

Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero raises to $3.00.</font>

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero calls. </font>

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[crazymoose]

Hand 1: Reraise to 9-10. Bet flop unless it is super scary.

Hand 2: Usually limp. Once in a while though I'd raise to about 2.5 and c/bet flop.

Hand 3: With no reads I would probably call sometimes, fold sometimes.

Hand 4: Call.

Hnad 5: Fold.

Hand 6: Raise to 2.5, c/bet flop.

Hand 7: Call.

Hand 8: Fold.

[marvin_1935]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> reraises pot

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> completes

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> calls

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> reraises pot i'd like to charge the overs and i dont want to call oop vs smaller pps

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font> raise pot

Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> raise pot

Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> fold.

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> raises/folds

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[barryc83]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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1) Hero makes it $9.
2) Hero completes.
3) Readless I'd fold.
4) Hero calls.
5) Hero folds.
6) Hero makes it $2.50
7) Hero makes it $3
8) Readless fold.

[ben wb]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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I normally call here but raising to $8-$10 is also good.
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Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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I generally call but I've been thinking about raising this type of hand from the sb after a late position limper as their range is often quite wide and the BB could have any two cards, if CO likes to limp a lot but won't always call a raise then I'd raise to $2.50.
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Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Fold almost always, I don't like playing this out of position to a raise, if I did play it I would reraise to $8.
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Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Call.
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Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Fold 80%, Raise to $2 20%.
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Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Raise to $2.50.
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Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Raise to $3, sometimes limp behind, A9o and lower I fold.
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Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Generally fold, call sometimes, if CO had called the raise I'd be more likely to call.

[crookdimwit]

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A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.

For all hands, assume:
50NL, 6 players
100bb stacks
No reads


Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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Raise to $6

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Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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Calls.


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Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Fold. I hate AJ beyond word, esp. OOP.

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Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Calls.

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Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Fold. Limp if the table is somewhat passive.

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Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Raise to $2.50

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Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>


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Raise to $3.

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Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font>

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Call