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Old 01-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default 100NL Four readless hands (A little rusty)

I know its normally one post per topic but these are likely to be quick since there are no reads and I dont want to clog up the forum.

Getting back into poker for the year, Jan sucks and am down 10 buyins so these may be simple.

1. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($119.40)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($138.29)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($34.35)</font>
UTG ($108.25)
MP ($104.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $3.5</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($18) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

River: ($28) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB calls $33.35 (All-In), Hero calls $20.35.

Final Pot: $81.70

Scary flop but likely hands are draws. Worth a Cbet? I doubt it now. Also - his range can easily be a good A on the river.


2.Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($44.25)
Button ($180.45)
SB ($133.45)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($79.19)
MP ($98)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>

Raise flop seemed the thing to do. But why? what worse hands call/better hands fold. How is a call. I think the real value in this hand is stacking 8s when I hit. How would you play A8 here?

3. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($120.90)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($72.31)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($220.10)</font>
BB ($26.45)
UTG ($116.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $4.5</font>, BB calls $4, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($63) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $72.31 (All-In), Hero calls $43.31.

Thought about pushing flop - is that the better option or the easy option? Giving that I called, what is my plan on turn. What could his range be here?


4. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($155.87)
MP ($37.45)
Button ($110.65)
Hero ($99)
BB ($99)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($11) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, Button calls $8.

Turn: ($27) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $19</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: $46

Nice flop! If the guy raises is a push good? What should I do on the turn? Obvious bet right but how do I respnd to a raise. I have outs but am definately behind so basic pot odds depending on size right?
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Old 01-15-2007, 03:50 PM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Four readless hands (A little rusty)

1. I really hate being sat to right of shortstacks. Im not sure about cbetting flop, but I dont think play is terrible.

2. I wouldnt raise this. Your setting up a big pot with a marginal hand, and as you say your value comes from stacking 8s, so you want to give 8s good odds to call. Often I fold these draws in small pots, because I dont think I have pot/implied odds because the draw is so transparent.

3. Push flop.

4. Reads on villain? Id probably be pretty aggressive with the draw, but Im not sure you would have a lot of FE, so it may not be the best play.
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:14 PM
Robert A. Robert A. is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Four readless hands (A little rusty)

womble,

1: Bet more on the flop, def. bet turn, c/f river to any substantial bet.

2: I would just call tbh, raising this flop in a 4-way pot = meh.

3: push flop, he's short and can have a lot of draws or just a seven or an overpair which he'll call with.

4: check turn.
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