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10-16-2006, 02:41 PM
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Re: AAA Flop
Im in the BB with A4s, Good Aggressive HJ open raises all fold to me, I call. Flop comes AAA, i donk.
My thinking- He can't have an A, but he raised from the HJ so there is a good chance his non ace cards are big face cards he won't want to fold or a PP that i might get some real action out of. If i c/r it will shut him out of the raising action with most of his hands. Donking gaurentees a bet on every street when he has a hand he wants to get to show down. If i get raised my plan will often be to raise and donk again (depending on the card). I can represent that i paired the next card on the turn and don't want to give a free card. This opens him up to raise me again with his bigger pocket pairs and takes away his free card/showdown attempts on the flop and turn. Who likes my play in this situaiton? 
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#14
10-16-2006, 02:57 PM
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Re: AAA Flop
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[ QUOTE ] Bryce, I used to ascribe to the philosophy that "if it's breakeven EV wise it's always better to be a pain in the ass by raising" for metagame reasons etc, but after playing a high volume of hands in that style IMO it makes variance a tremendous headache, and opens you up to being outplayed in a large # of marginal situations by overaggro or very insightful players. Surf [/ QUOTE ] I do think a calldown is better than a raise here, but never underestimate the value of frustrating your opponents. [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. I have no qualms about doing so HU or 3h where i'm going to clash constantly with my opponents, I want them to always be worried about getting raised or c/r'd and want them to feel like it's going to be really hard to steal my pots. I find this metagame utility is greatly diminished in a 6max setting where even if he's 2-3 to your left you wont be butting heads with him often enough. Surf
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#15
10-16-2006, 04:37 PM
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Re: AAA Flop
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"Who likes my play in this situaiton?" wow, so youre telling me you can play quads profitably? [/ QUOTE ] Anyone can show a profit with the nuts, but when you can squeeze out another big bet or so with 100% equity that's a heroic result (as opposed to getting another BB in with like TP or something). Nice post Surf.
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#16
10-16-2006, 05:40 PM
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Re: AAA Flop
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[ QUOTE ] "Who likes my play in this situaiton?" wow, so youre telling me you can play quads profitably? [/ QUOTE ] Anyone can show a profit with the nuts, but when you can squeeze out another big bet or so with 100% equity that's a heroic result (as opposed to getting another BB in with like TP or something). Nice post Surf. [/ QUOTE ] Thx bryce. I like the idea in your post, but since we're freeshowdowning we're only picking up an extra bet 6 out of 46 times, and even less b/c sometimes we hit and he folds, or we raise and he folds when he would have bluffed the river so in certain instances we're costing ourselves $. Surf
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