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The Bryce 10-15-2006 09:59 PM

AAA Flop
 
I raise QJo from the HJ, 60/20 aggro looking guy who I just sat beside calls in the BB. Flop AAA he donks, I call intending to raise the next street FSD (for jackass factor, I suppose).

Leader 10-15-2006 10:04 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
A raise doesn't seem like a good idea here. Mainly because it could induce you to make an incorrect fold if he 3-bets you. I think those bets are better invested in a turn and river call UI.

Victor 10-15-2006 10:05 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
bc you put him on precisely king high and you are such a badass you can make him fold or you such a super heman badmofo that he will fold a pair?

New001 10-15-2006 10:06 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
I don't like this either. Especially if the turn is a low card, he's probably not folding a King.

DrGiggles 10-15-2006 10:33 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
call down ui...turn raise = bad

MAxx 10-15-2006 10:38 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
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bc you put him on precisely king high and you are such a badass you can make him fold or you such a super heman badmofo that he will fold a pair?

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something like that...

The Bryce 10-15-2006 10:45 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
Oh, I don't expect him to fold a king more than, like, maybe 10%. This is how I think: "if I'm putting 2BB in the pot I don't really see him going nuts on me with a worse hand if I 3 bet, so I may as well be a [censored]". In my experience, it pays to be a [censored]. I'm mostly expecting comments about how it's not worth it and I should just call down, and checking to see if anyone likes fastplaying the flop.

The Bryce 10-15-2006 11:08 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
I am a pretty bad mofo, though [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Surf 10-16-2006 12:48 AM

Re: AAA Flop
 
Bryce,

I used to ascribe to the philosophy that "if it's breakeven EV wise it's always better to be a pain in the ass by raising" for metagame reasons etc, but after playing a high volume of hands in that style IMO it makes variance a tremendous headache, and opens you up to being outplayed in a large # of marginal situations by overaggro or very insightful players.

Surf

The Bryce 10-16-2006 01:38 PM

Re: AAA Flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bryce,

I used to ascribe to the philosophy that "if it's breakeven EV wise it's always better to be a pain in the ass by raising" for metagame reasons etc, but after playing a high volume of hands in that style IMO it makes variance a tremendous headache, and opens you up to being outplayed in a large # of marginal situations by overaggro or very insightful players.

Surf

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I do think a calldown is better than a raise here, but never underestimate the value of frustrating your opponents.


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