PS11: Comment on Vilain...

luthar · #1 10-16-2006, 01:38 PM

This might be a weird post but I'm asking you what line should Vilain take here with his hand.

Reads on vilain: - 3 tabling 11$

Reads on hero are as follow:
-3rd hand in SnG.. Hero raised 3xBB UTG on 1st hand...everyone folded

What ranges does Hero have on flop?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t1160)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1450)
Button (t1440)
Hero (t1490)
BB (t1460)

Preflop: Vilain is in MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to t40, CO folds, Button folds, Hero raises to t80, BB folds, MP3 calls t40

Flop: (t190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t120, MP3 calls t120

Turn: (t430) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t120, MP3 calls t120

River: (t670) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t240, MP3 calls t240

Pudge714 · #2 10-16-2006, 01:42 PM

I'm so confused.

luthar · #3 10-16-2006, 01:50 PM

I am confused how vilain played that hand and hope any one of you has a meta-game explanation...

helloimcdog · #4 10-16-2006, 01:51 PM

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lastchance · #5 10-16-2006, 02:00 PM

I have KK as MP3, right?

I raise to t60-t80, 3-bet preflop. On the flop, if I have something like AQ, I probably raise, though calling down isn't the worst like in the world. I don't think you can raise turn or river for value after the way pf and flop went down.

Josh_sieg · #6 10-16-2006, 02:05 PM

Villian open folds KK in MP1, bad move dude

luthar · #7 10-16-2006, 02:18 PM

*mental notes never to try something fancy with a converter*

KK is MP3 yes...

wiggs73 · #8 10-16-2006, 02:22 PM

Uh... villain could have re-raised or raised the flop I reckon.

WTF did you have, that's such an odd line for any hand, especially preflop.

Green Kool Aid · #9 10-16-2006, 02:42 PM

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i thought you guys were being lazy and didn't want to decipher this, but i tried to figure out wtf was going on three times and can't. sorry OP.

i will say that KK played this pretty bad.

luthar · #10 10-16-2006, 05:04 PM

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Uh... villain could have re-raised or raised the flop I reckon.

WTF did you have, that's such an odd line for any hand, especially preflop.

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Good ol AA... I was just shocked when I saw in my hand history that he had KK.. didn't understand a thing.. he should have normally re-raised pf.. re-raised on flop?

I was wondering what he was trying to do?! Trap me risking an ace? Not wanting to commit to a pot?! I tought about meta game.. but... oh well..

Here was the right hand:
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t1160)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1450)
Button (t1440)
Hero (t1490)
BB (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to t40, CO folds, Button folds, Hero raises to t80, BB folds, MP3 calls t40

Flop: (t190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t120, MP3 calls t120

Turn: (t430) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t120, MP3 calls t120

River: (t670) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t240, MP3 calls t240

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