ATs

[MatthewRyan]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Whats up with all the weak-tight crew? There is no other turn card I would rather see. This ten is > ace or heart.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would like to make the flush over a pair.

Orange: w/o reads/stats, I think this is close. I'm thinking a CRAI is the best line if youve raised his BB once before. This is a board that is very floatable, and the T doesnt change much (in his mind).

[/ QUOTE ]

a black ten is > flush or ace because it conceals your hand and makes the possibility higher than your 2nd barrel is a bluff and more likely to get called. If the Ace or heart falls you will not make as much money (unless he also hits the flush)

[GtrHtr]

[ QUOTE ]
are there any merits in c/r over double barrel?

[/ QUOTE ]

my opinion would be that either firing again here or a crai would work equally here. The difference to me is small, and would be read dependant. Does the paired flop lead us to any conclusions, iow does it make a random river more threatening?

[terp]

i don't like c/c and then c/r heart turn. people check behind way too often. i like a c/r here - the board is raggedy so i wouldn't expect him to check behind, we have a lot of equity if he calls or pushes, and i like to work a lot of c/r into my turn play.

[BalugaWhale]

lets be real dudes

his range is:
FD
Float
Midpair
Flopped boat (we'll rule this out, cause if he has this then shiiite)

A FD often will not call a decent turn bet. A float certainly won't. The benefits of us checking the turn, him checking behind with a FD, and us both hitting on the river >>>> one bet from a midpair.

A lot of this is villain depending of course, but the more aggro they get, the better a passive-style line is on the turn here. Just remember that there's not much he can have that'll pay us off on the turn that wouldn't pay us off equally or more on the river.

[Tupacia]

Checking is gross. Have you guys ever been to the mythical Valuetown? I bet all day every day here and don't bat an eye about it.

[SainteLucie]

he can be on everything if he only decides its time to defend is blind. so he can be on the deuce, but not probable since he would've raise the flop to cut the odds for the heart flush draw. so hes calling to see the turn and see the strenght of heros hand. i think a c/r attempt is no good here since he'll most surely check back if he as nothing. wich is high percentage... a second barrel is my choice.

[BalugaWhale]

saintelucie-
[ QUOTE ]
a c/r attempt is no good here since he'll most surely check back if he has nothing

[/ QUOTE ]

if he often has nothing here, why are we betting?

[SainteLucie]

[ QUOTE ]
saintelucie-
[ QUOTE ]
a c/r attempt is no good here since he'll most surely check back if he has nothing

[/ QUOTE ]

if he often has nothing here, why are we betting?

[/ QUOTE ]
yes thx good question. i guess my answer would be that we dont want villain to get a free high card that beats us like kqj.

[Ignignok]

open shove the turn.

[BalugaWhale]

[ QUOTE ]
open shove the turn

[/ QUOTE ]
ew no