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Old 10-12-2006, 08:51 PM
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Villan is fairly loose PF but no other reads than that. We have no history together, and this is probably the 2nd time I've raised his BB in a blind battle. Whats your typical turn play here, a c/r or a double barrel?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $193.80
CO: $212.90
Button: $197
orange: $214.55
BB: $933.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) orange is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $7</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $13</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
orange ?
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:54 PM
Robert A. Robert A. is offline
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check/call?
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Old 10-12-2006, 08:54 PM
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Bet again. He often has some junk draw and will call. If he was a manic aggro-tard I'd CRAI.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:01 PM
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Bet again. He often has some junk hand and will fold.

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check
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:04 PM
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i like a second barrel. he may put you on a draw but that's ok because you hit a nice turn.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:05 PM
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I like a c/c w/ plans of another c/c on non [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rivers and c/r on [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rivers.

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Old 10-12-2006, 09:06 PM
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why aren't you betting the turn for value? is c/c getting more value? i think c/c looks like exactly what he has, a heart draw.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:08 PM
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Mostly bet. Not too big.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:22 PM
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paul is right again.

dang, paul is really good at cards
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:40 PM
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What's the matter with potting it? Is potting it bad, such that you don't get the value of implied odds if you river a heart?

If you river a heart, do you think villain would call a c/r?

Unless he's insane, or had a flush draw himself, I think not.

I certainly DON'T want him to think I'm on a heart draw.

So, in this case, I'd probably:

Bet the turn at $30.

If he CALLS the turn and there's a heart on the river, THEN C/R AI. (representing a made hand that just lost to a flush, inducing a bluff). maybe, or underbet and go AI if he raises the underbet.

If he RAISES the turn, we're in trouble, as the $30 is intended partly as a blocking bet.

If there's no heart on the river, and he only called the turn, then I'd probably 3/4 pot bet unless the river may have improved him (an K or maybe Q on the river may be a coffin nail, and then it's possibly more of a check/fold situation.)



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