AK unimproved river play

[MacGuyV]

I'd bet 77 as well. Probably not a good river call for AK/AJ, but you don't think everyone does it?

[whodaman]

check for info

[geormiet]

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i'm revising the post with cards/suits and assuming villain bets the river.

I raise AKo utg in a 6 handed online game. Folded to the sb who 3 bets, folded to me, I call.

SB is a very solid winning tag, on the aggressive side. Solid and for the most part straightforward.

Flop is T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He bets, I call.

Turn is Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. He checks, I check.

River is a 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He bets,

are you guys actually calling this?

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It doesn't matter whether I call this. What matters is what most players will do, and YES most players will call.

[The Bryce]

I expect him to bet any pair on the end here a lot, so I'd bet.

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It doesn't matter whether I call this. What matters is what most players will do, and YES most players will call.

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QFT

[Schizo]

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It doesn't matter whether I call this. What matters is what most players will do, and YES most players will call.

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I routinely don't cap AK in spots like this against decent hand readers.

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Ok, playing Mr. Obvious.........

It seems to me like you are saying: "he's good enough of a hand reader to know what the general populace cap preflop with and what how the general public plays ace high. He may even know what I cap or do not cap preflop with. However, he's not good enough to know how I play ace high on the river".

Is that right? If so I like the river bet. Although it takes some specific reads to rule out the chance of him trying to induce a bluff.

[geormiet]

You're pretty much correct in what you say. Therefore, if the villian is playing his normal A game he should be able to fold AJ.

Some compelling reasons to bet, however:

-He pretty much has only AK or AJ here most of the time.

-If he's good enough to fold AJ, then he's could also fold AK.

-He only has to be tilting a little bit to convince himself to call with AJ.

[Joe Tall]

It's very rarely you'll find a player paying you off with AJ and this is the only hand you have value against, check it.

[The Funky Llama]

huh? I see this payoff all the time in these games.

[Victor]

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It's very rarely you'll find a player paying you off with AJ and this is the only hand you have value against, check it.

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huh, i see this call all day and i never bluff so its not some metagame thing.

[Joe Tall]

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huh? I see this payoff all the time in these games.

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The problem is that he has 66, 77, 99 and is defense checking or is just stone cold folding. He doesn't have AJ often enough.