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Old 09-28-2006, 01:08 PM
geormiet geormiet is offline
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Default AK unimproved river play

I raise AKo utg in a 6 handed online game. Folded to the sb who 3 bets, folded to me, I call.

SB is a very solid winning tag, on the aggressive side. Solid and for the most part straightforward.

Flop is T83 with 2 spades. He bets, I call. TUrn is offsuit Q. He checks, I check.

River is a low blank. He checks, I?
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river play

I don't have experience in these games.

What is he c/c'ing here? AJ? really? It seems like a bet would have to come with the hopes of folding out a split, really, because I just don't see him folding a hand like 77 after previous action.

You're UTG and raised, so he should weight your hand to the better end of your range. Its hard for me to think of too many hands in that range that would flat callt he flop and check behind that turn that hadn't whiffed by the river. So his river check is thinking you've whiffed and wouldn't call one anyways?

EDIT: I'm putting his range as some decent PPs and broadway-type hands. Just about every hand in this range bets the flop. Those that check the turn are the lower PPS and the draws, with the rare A9s or something thrown in, right?
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river play

He's calling 77.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river play

Wouldn't a tag player tend to bet fold 77 on the turn?
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river play

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Wouldn't a tag player tend to bet fold 77 on the turn?

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I would c/c c/c for fear of AK, KJ, spades, tons of [censored] that bluffraises. If I thought you were a fish calling station, sure I'd bet it.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river play

i would bet against most. if hes a weakish 25/18 is only time i would check behind. im starting to encounter these types a lot at 10-20.

you gotta bet against the loose aggro wanna outplay me everyfuckintime 33/24 assclowns. bet and punish that punk for stepping to you with a weaker ace. bet bc they would never play a pair that way, as they would never check a pair on the turn (and proly not river unless you owned them recently.)
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: AK unimproved river play

wouldnt he value bet the river after you check the turn behind with a pair? i think you gotta bet this river vs everyone.
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:00 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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If I check 77 on the turn and he checks behind, no way I fire at a blank river.
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:03 PM
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wouldnt he value bet the river after you check the turn behind with a pair?

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RIght, exactly.
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:11 PM
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If I check 77 on the turn and he checks behind, no way I fire at a blank river.

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yeah i dont get it either.
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