"Official" nrog guy/org thread

[nrog]

Bluff...I believe I answered all the concerns I read about. YOur questions were answered seperately on your post.

[JuntMonkey]

Please keep posting...

[BluffTHIS!]

nrog,

1) Name your lobbying firm, so we can see if you're on their client list in their required disclosure filings.

2) Host a pdf image file of your non-profit docs on imageshack or something and provide a link to same.

[nrog]

Bluffthis:

NROG was officially incorporated in July which means our tax staus will not be available (IRS docs/search) for another 7 or 8 months. Its retroactive to our first day of business. I'm sure our accountant and our attorneys have what they need to make sure we're all set but this may be the reason why you are not finding us. Forgive my ignorance on this issue...I didn't file all the paperwork...our attorneys did. As far as our corporate documents I'm sure I can get a pdf and I'll happily email them to you. Please supply your email but it will have to wait until tomorrow when i return to the office (i'm heading out momentarily). I hope that works. You will not find our name on our lobbying firms filings yet because we JUST hired them 4-5 weeks ago when all this started lighting up. I'm open and will do what I can...nothing to hide here. I just hope that we can satisfy your needs soon so we can get these postings back to what they should be about and that it whats is the next move by Congress and how we can actively fight them.

[BluffTHIS!]

nrog,

You still, unless I have missed it, haven't named your lobbying firm, regardless of whether you would yet show up in any such filings of same.

Or wait a minute! Did you name your "lobbying firm"? Is it your own maketing company and you and your bud are the lobbyists?

[dustyn]

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nrog,

You still, unless I have missed it, haven't named your lobbying firm, regardless of whether you would yet show up in any such filings of same.

Or wait a minute! Did you name your "lobbying firm"? Is it your own maketing company and you and your bud are the lobbyists?

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Bluff,

Is it your sole intent by starting this thread to drive away a quality poster who many of us value? Because, quite frankly, he's been more patient with answering your stupid ass questions than most other people would be.

[BluffTHIS!]

dustyn,

He hasn't yet really contributed anything that can't be gleaned from other news sources or our own long time insiders. And he's doing everything possible to prevent us checking his bona fides. Which is why I want the name of a lobbying firm, because even if their clients for this year aren't on file yet, a verification of that lobbying firm's own creds and a simple phone call to them can clear all this up.

[dustyn]

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dustyn,

He hasn't yet really contributed anything that can't be gleaned from other news sources or our own long time insiders. And he's doing everything possible to prevent us checking his bona fides. Which is why I want the name of a lobbying firm, because even if their clients for this year aren't on file yet, a verification of that lobbying firm's own creds and a simple phone call to them can clear all this up.

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You didn't answer my question, which is, ironically, exactly what you are accusing him of.

[BluffTHIS!]

dustyn,

My intent in this thread is to see if he is either a scammer, someone using this issue for his own other reasons (and I have a theory on this), or someone legit. He has insinutated he has a lobbying firm and it should be no problem for him to name same.

[TruePoker CEO]

Some constructive criticism from someone with both lobbying and current online poker experience, PLUS a rash of largely self-inflicted scars from overly hubristic 2+2 posts.

"an organization who is trying hard to fight Congress!"

Point 1 .... a lobbyist is not supposed to "fight Congress".

Point 2. .... Lobbying is very different than either radio or marketing.

Your radio/marketing expertise is VERY welcome in opposition to the attempts to ban online poker. (PPA was criticized by me for lacking such a grassroots focus.) Please raise as much public awareness and support for this cause as possible.

However, you really come across as trying to claim the exclusive knowledge of Hill happenings, in a forum filled with actual lobbyists who are ALSO volunteering their time.

Further, some of the hype you've floated lacked credibility and,

Point 3, you can and should admit your occasional clear mistakes of both factual accuracy and judgement.

Finally, feel free to admit that you could stand to make some money from your site, whether as a poker affiliate, database collector or otherwise. Frankly, no one would think the less of you.