"Official" nrog guy/org thread

[kickabuck]

1)interesting question, should an answer one way or the other affect one's relationship with his organization? If so, how so and why?
2)Seems like a reasonable request. What is the downside to revealing the lobbying firm?
3)Less important I would think, his information will prove to be accurate or not in due time, although I don't necessarily see a reason to not answer this question.

[1p0kerboy]

These questions seem legit.

[ShakeZula06]

Guys chill out. BluffThis is asking the same thing (probably less) from the NROG guy that Mason and company is asked of PPA right?

[Silent1]

Just a suggestion. How about postponing the inquisition until after the war?

Right now we need all the help we can get on our side.

[Jack Bando]

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Just a suggestion. How about postponing the inquisition until after the war?

Right now we need all the help we can get on our side.

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Using your war analogy, we want to know if our General throws the grenade and not the pin.

[S0meGuy]

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Guys chill out. BluffThis is asking the same thing (probably less) from the NROG guy that Mason and company is asked of PPA right?

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It is definitely NOT the same. PPA asks for money...NROG does not. As such, PPA has an obligation to be transparent and accountable regarding the specific way those funds are managed and the activities that are being funded. PPA critics would say that both transparency and disclosure are lacking with the PPA.

[Silent1]

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Just a suggestion. How about postponing the inquisition until after the war?

Right now we need all the help we can get on our side.

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Using your war analogy, we want to know if our General throws the grenade and not the pin.

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Really it matters not. A pin can be just as lethal as a grenade if used effecively, and it's certainly more artful.
A cold-war era spy once killed 27 people with a pin. [I just made that up; I think it sounds plausible [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]]

Jay is helpful, and he hasn't demanded money. If people don't like him they can ignore him. I'm puzzled by the attacks.

Start a new thread to demand answers from Frist. Now that would be real progress!

[Jack Bando]

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Just a suggestion. How about postponing the inquisition until after the war?

Right now we need all the help we can get on our side.

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Using your war analogy, we want to know if our General throws the grenade and not the pin.

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Really it matters not. A pin can be just as lethal as a grenade if used effecively, and it's certainly more artful.
A cold-war era spy once killed 27 people with a pin. [I just made that up; I think it sounds plausible [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]]

Jay is helpful, and he hasn't demanded money. If people don't like him they can ignore him. I'm puzzled by the attacks.

Start a new thread to demand answers from Frist. Now that would be real progress!

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I hope NROG is a helpful ally in this, as I hope that PPA is doing something good behind the scenes, and also 2+2 does something more than a forum.

The only thing NROG has done on these boards to my knowledge is say "As of right now, Frist has failed and has quit" a few hours after this statement, it appeared that Frist was back on the warpath.

I personally would just like to know more about NROG and what it's doing that it can disclose. They haven't done anything to earn my trust as of now (not being neg, just haven't seen anything), I hope that view changes.

[ShakeZula06]

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Guys chill out. BluffThis is asking the same thing (probably less) from the NROG guy that Mason and company is asked of PPA right?

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It is definitely NOT the same. PPA asks for money...NROG does not. As such, PPA has an obligation to be transparent and accountable regarding the specific way those funds are managed and the activities that are being funded. PPA critics would say that both transparency and disclosure are lacking with the PPA.

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No, NROG does ask for money.

It isn't like BluffThis is a mod threatening to ban NROG unless he provides this info. This is a very scary time for online poker players right now and BluffThis is concerned about getting credible information. If NROG doesn't provide that info, well that's his choice but that does say something about his credibility.

[Miamipuck]

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Guys chill out. BluffThis is asking the same thing (probably less) from the NROG guy that Mason and company is asked of PPA right?

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It is definitely NOT the same. PPA asks for money...NROG does not. As such, PPA has an obligation to be transparent and accountable regarding the specific way those funds are managed and the activities that are being funded. PPA critics would say that both transparency and disclosure are lacking with the PPA.

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PPA critics use the logic they are asking for money from us and should tell us everything. Just curious though, when we pay 20 bucks to join and get reimbursed 25 from Party how much came out of our pockets?

It also seems to me that even if they were totally transparent the same critics would do jack shiat anyway. Just a convenient excuse for the powers to be to do nothing. If you look hard enough (ie Nate's posts, the National call congress day etc.) you can get ample evidence they are spending the money where they should.