AA Deep vs 2p2er

[Jamougha]

I think you're deep enough to 4-bet a reasonably wide range of hands.

[br549007]

Call hope he leads out on the flop and does not hit his set. Pot size re raise after he bets tht flop.

[tufat23]

dude i would 4-bet to $400 with AQ+, and 99+. definitely just make this $400.

[Paul Thomson]

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this is tough given stack sizes and number of plalyers at the table.

Like you say, the villain probably has a wide reraising range here. So I'd tend to 4-bet the hand. However, now you're really defining your hand for the villain and also creating a very large pot that will be hard for you to get away from with an over-pair (...you're probably good enough to get away from this hand, but it's still going to suck). However, I don't necessarily like to play for pot control preflop when you have position the rest of the hand.

Here are two options:

CALL: And slow play it a little on most flops. Since the villain is a 2p2er, he'll lead the flop 95% of the time. As long as it's not a super-draw heavy flop, I'd probably call most flops. Then I'd hope the villain will lead most turns in which hero should raise and fold to a reraise.

RERAISE: I'd probably bet most flops and slow down for pot control if the villain calls.

PUSH It negates your positional advantage. But it's never a horrible option if the villain will call with KK this deep.

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I'm not sure that I like my preflop call line anymore. I was playing around with the numbers and it looks like it leads to awkard stack sizes on the turn if we raise.

So if we call preflop. I like two different lines.
1) If villain continuation bets the flop, then I think raising and fold to a reraise.
2) If villain continuation bets on a dry flop, I like calling down to the river. If he checks the river, I think you can usually throw in a small value bet.

[Gorilla Boy]

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Gorilla Boy -

Do you have anymore context for the hand?
How long have your been playing short-handed?
Have you and the villain been tangling?
How does the villain regard you?
Has anyone 4-bet preflop, yet?

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It was short-handed for a few rounds before this.
We were staying out of each others way because there was a huge fish at the table, this was the first time anyone 4-bet. I was 3-betting the fish a lot and playing some big pot with him light, so I was probably seen as TAG, maybe a bit crazy.

[Ness3]

By reraising him you are narrowing down your hand range for your opponent. Because of that I typically want to put in a large reraise, so that he cannot call profitably and may be inticed to go broke on a certain flops now that the pot has become so large (if he calls).

Of course, you occasionally will be calling reraises with your suited connectors and pairs, looking to hit a flop. To balance this, I will occasionally also just call with KK/AA for added deceptiveness.

Ness

[gimmetheloot]

300BB deep. you must 4bet this. Make it 475+

[Paul Thomson]

Hey Gorilla Boy -

Thanks for the added context. As Ness alluded to, a case can be made for either a 4-bet or a call.

Can we play along with you on the rest of the hand?

[xorbie]

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LOL

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[xorbie]

Gorrila Boy,

i would just call and take a flop here unless you have been 4-betting a fair amount. now i generally don't 4-bet much when i have position because it's easier to just take a flop and go from there, so i would do that here. i would be looking to play a decent size pot, maybe $1000 exchanges hands. still very good for AA. by 4-betting you are:

a) risking $3000, because you likely (lol) intend on playing for full stacks on any board
b) losing a lot of bluffing action... he is sure to be bluffing a lot postflop for metagame purposes
c) less likely to win a decent pot off TT/JJ postflop