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Old 09-04-2006, 01:04 PM
Gorilla Boy Gorilla Boy is offline
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Default AA Deep vs 2p2er

Villan is TAG and has a wide re-raising range.

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Hero ($3137.50)
Button ($1000)
SB ($3285.50)
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $118</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>

<font color="blue"> I know this isn't small stakes, but I'm new to nl1000 and I don't think msnl will be too helpful on this one. </font>
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:18 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

this is tough given stack sizes and number of plalyers at the table.

Like you say, the villain probably has a wide reraising range here. So I'd tend to 4-bet the hand. However, now you're really defining your hand for the villain and also creating a very large pot that will be hard for you to get away from with an over-pair (...you're probably good enough to get away from this hand, but it's still going to suck). However, I don't necessarily like to play for pot control preflop when you have position the rest of the hand.

Here are two options:

CALL: And slow play it a little on most flops. Since the villain is a 2p2er, he'll lead the flop 95% of the time. As long as it's not a super-draw heavy flop, I'd probably call most flops. Then I'd hope the villain will lead most turns in which hero should raise and fold to a reraise.

RERAISE: I'd probably bet most flops and slow down for pot control if the villain calls.

PUSH It negates your positional advantage. But it's never a horrible option if the villain will call with KK this deep.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:19 PM
PayOffWizard PayOffWizard is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

I'd pop this up to $365-375, and go from there
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:31 PM
cambraceres cambraceres is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

You're in position here, call and get on with the hand. I don't just reraise as I would on a ss table.

Cam
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:33 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

how many hands had you been 4betting?

I can't see any reason not to 4bet here really
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:34 PM
Paul Thomson Paul Thomson is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

Gorilla Boy -

Do you have anymore context for the hand?
How long have your been playing short-handed?
Have you and the villain been tangling?
How does the villain regard you?
Has anyone 4-bet preflop, yet?
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:35 PM
jetsetboy jetsetboy is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

Given the stack size I would go for about $400 thus negating him any implied odd with any hand. After that I would try to find a way to have all my money in on the flop/turn. Anyway that might be much too clear at this stake... Are you sure you shouldn't put this thread in the MSNL forum ? By the way what is your table image ? How did he build is stack ? How did you ? You have said that he has a wide reraising range while being TAG, what about calling/pushing preflop if you 3bet him, will he need a very strong hand or can he plays with marginal hands ?
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

I think you have to protect your stack here and 4-bet rather than give him a cheapish flop, although there are merits for slowplaying your aces here. All depends on how comfortable you are with them postflop with the deep stacks.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:47 PM
Robert A. Robert A. is offline
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

LOL
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: AA Deep vs 2p2er

im 4betting every time with these stacks.
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