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01-20-2006, 01:30 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
[/ QUOTE ] Oh come one, lets have some real discussion here. Thats just so weak minded its painful to read. You really assume a monster from a button raise and SB shove? I hope your sitting in the BB everytime i push 78h vs an aggro button. If we ignore the button for now, as i think if we push, he folds most of the time anyway - we need to put sb on a pretty tight range to make this a fold. AT+, 88+, KQ is basically a coinflip, and with an overlay thats good yes? [/ QUOTE ] Weak? Thats one valid opinion. I am not assuming a monster - I'm obviously more conservative than u here. Put simply -I don't like chasing with 10's. If I open I push, facing one raiser I push. 2 raises to me generally spells trouble hence the fold. I look forward to meeting you on the tables and whpping your ass - where do you play? 
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#12
01-20-2006, 01:32 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
[ QUOTE ]
[/ QUOTE ] Oh come one, lets have some real discussion here. Thats just so weak minded its painful to read. You really assume a monster from a button raise and SB shove? I hope your sitting in the BB everytime i push 78h vs an aggro button. If we ignore the button for now, as i think if we push, he folds most of the time anyway - we need to put sb on a pretty tight range to make this a fold. AT+, 88+, KQ is basically a coinflip, and with an overlay thats good yes? [/ QUOTE ] Weak? Thats one valid opinion. I am not assuming a monster - I'm obviously more conservative than u here. Put simply -I don't like chasing with 10's. If I open I push, facing one raiser I push. 2 raises to me generally spells trouble hence the fold. I look forward to meeting you on the tables and whpping your ass - where do you play? [/ QUOTE ] uh oh. this is starting to get good. do i hear challenge?
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#13
01-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here.
I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb?
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#14
01-20-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
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I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb? [/ QUOTE ] Hustler hard at work...
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#15
01-20-2006, 01:42 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
Until last night i had a negative roi for this month - i think the smart money is on him [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#17
01-20-2006, 01:46 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
[ QUOTE ]
If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here. I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb? [/ QUOTE ] just an FYI, but i ran pokerstove on the ranges you mentioned, BUT i left the button in also as a random hand (his range may be better than random or not). So against the range for SB you listed and a random hand, the TT is 41%.
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#18
01-20-2006, 01:49 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
[ QUOTE ]
If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here. I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb? [/ QUOTE ] LOL - so you actually agreed with my analysis! Fair play on admitting it. What limits and size of tourney do you play? I float about in the big tourneys up to $50 and sit n go's up to $200 mainly on party but I've just recentlty started playing on stars, so if our buy-ins are similar I might be tempted to have a little side bet?? What amount you thinkin?
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#19
01-20-2006, 01:50 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
He folds the random hand though, its not still there. What range do we give him for calling after it goes push/repush, probably QQ+, AK? Thats very rarely, so i just assumed he folded to make the calculation easier,thats fine right?
If we give him A8+, KQ, 22+ im 60%, if we give him AT+, KQ+, 88 its a coinflip. I think its possible his range could be even greater than that, but for a random sb, im not too sure how wide i would make it.
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#20
01-20-2006, 01:52 PM
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Re: If only they were aces...
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LOL - so you actually agreed with my analysis! Fair play on admitting it. What limits and size of tourney do you play? I float about in the big tourneys up to $50 and sit n go's up to $200 mainly on party but I've just recentlty started playing on stars, so if our buy-ins are similar I might be tempted to have a little side bet?? What amount you thinkin? [/ QUOTE ] If you had posted the reasons behind folding the first time, i wouldn't have commented about it, but just because it goes raise, reraise is no reason to fold - was hoping to get more discussion than that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I play pretty similar stakes, sidebet can be discussed, i was thinking around $1000 or so? Otherwise its not worth it and less interesting.
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