I know this [censored]-head doesn't have a King

DrewOnTilt · #1 07-23-2006, 05:20 PM

Villain in this hand was consistenlty raising or check-raising my steals. He would always check-raise with any piece of the board, and it was seriously pissing me off. He has TAGgish stats and seems to play well postflop, but I would say that his one weakness is that he badly overvalues 1-pair hands headsup.

I know that he has no king here, but can I see a showdown? The turn was kinda ugly.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero ???

The Bryce · #2 07-23-2006, 05:22 PM

I don't see why Villain can't have a K here. Since you didn't mention that you thought he was coming after you with airballs I suggest you get your head screwed on straight and fold.

DrewOnTilt · #3 07-23-2006, 06:46 PM

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I suggest you get your head screwed on straight and fold.

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Thanks, I needed that [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Still, I think a King waits for the turn here.

Terrabon98 · #4 07-23-2006, 07:49 PM

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I suggest you get your head screwed on straight and fold.

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Thanks, I needed that [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Still, I think a King waits for the turn here.

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Not if he's a good TAG and he realizes that he has been abusing you lately by fastplaying all types of hands.

Regis · #5 07-23-2006, 08:12 PM

I'd fold. I think you're probably behind and although you will often have six outs here, that is not enough to call and you might be drawing dead.

MacGuyV · #6 07-24-2006, 12:29 AM

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Thanks, I needed that [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Still, I think a King waits for the turn here.

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Not if he's a good TAG and he realizes that he has been abusing you lately by fastplaying all types of hands.

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That's quite an assumption. Folding this hand blows chunks out of my ass IMO.

BEP · #7 07-24-2006, 01:24 AM

You have two options here once you get raised on that flop.

1. See a showdown.
2. Move down to $5-$10

donger · #8 07-24-2006, 02:05 AM

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You have two options here once you get raised on that flop.

1. See a showdown.
2. Move down to $5-$10

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This seems ridiculously oversimplified.

Re: the hand, I think giving up this turn is fine. I would probably commit to showdown on a non-diamond turn.

DrewOnTilt · #9 07-24-2006, 02:25 AM

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And I wish I had, but I decided to look him up this time. I got shown 4 2 offsuit no diamond for bottom pair, bet the whole way.

Meh, back to the grind.

BEP · #10 07-24-2006, 02:36 AM

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You have two options here once you get raised on that flop.

1. See a showdown.
2. Move down to $5-$10

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This seems ridiculously oversimplified.

Re: the hand, I think giving up this turn is fine. I would probably commit to showdown on a non-diamond turn.

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Nut no-pair is definitely enough to see a showdown here. An overplaying/tilting TAG is going to be raising Ax sometimes on this flop, sometimes making a pure bluff.