Ceasars poker room--stupid is as stupid does! - Page 11

Mason Malmuth · #**101** 01-17-2006, 05:21 PM

Hi Terry:

What you are describing is an attitude that many casinos like to see in their gaming pits. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in poker and poker room management needs to understand this.

Best wishes,
Mason

Mason Malmuth · #**102** 01-17-2006, 05:24 PM

Hi dark_avenger:

The proof is in the pudding. Negreanu is gone, and their bigest game is $15-$30. However, the room does seem to be beter run than when it started and over time may actually achieve some of its original goals.

Best wishes,
Mason

MicroBob · #**103** 01-17-2006, 05:25 PM

Some of the threads that I've read on here of players abusing other players and dealers (racist stuff...and just general rudeness and f-bombs) and being allowed to get off with their 17th warning of the night if just appalling to me.

There have been a couple of threads of some really bad behavior at some of the LA rooms (Commerce, Bike) that I've never been to. but I'm sure some of it happens in Vegas too and is still tolerated.

Not that behavior in Tunica is ultra-fabulous. But it sure seems like the Horseshoe isn't nearly as bashful about giving out-of-line players the boot.
I was at the Horseshoe one night and they were talking about how 4 different players needed to be taken out over 3 seperate incidents.

yes, it was a dealer who was talking about this while in the box...but it was another player who was there before who brought it up...I asked the dealer a couple of questions about it and he gave me very quick responses. I am understanding and appreicating Mason's viewpoint on dealer-talking in the box more and more (I'm not much of a B&M player so lots of things never fully occured to me).

however, it is my observation that it is often-times the player who is instigating the conversation WITH the dealer and telling them stories. While the dealer is mostly brushing them off and continuing to deal the game (that's what I see most frequently at least).

Curious if Randy and BigFish agree with me that the Horseshoe in Tunica has at least a slightly tighter leash on bad behavior in their room.
I know it's still kind of bad sometimes...but it feels to me like it is much better than some of the stories I read on here about incidents in LA and Vegas.

Randy - didn't know you were in Vegas now. Congrats on the move.

Mason Malmuth · #**104** 01-17-2006, 05:28 PM

Hi Larry:

I have advised cardrooms to hire a host. This would be someone who would be located in the front of the cardroom and among his many duties get to know the players. He would also not be someone who spent most of time playing poker which is exactly what every host I have ever seen does.

Best wishes,
Mason

RR · #**105** 01-17-2006, 05:33 PM

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Curious if Randy and BigFish agree with me that the Horseshoe in Tunica has at least a slightly tighter leash on bad behavior in their room.
I know it's still kind of bad sometimes...but it feels to me like it is much better than some of the stories I read on here about incidents in LA and Vegas.

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The players in Tunica are awesome; there is basically no bad behavior. When I first got to Tunica I told a few peopel about LA poekr and they tried to say that the Horseshoe was like that, but the level of abuse tolerated there is so much lower. The really bad abuse that takes places in the west (not as much as it used to) is such that people that have never seen it cannot actually understand it.

steamboatin · #**106** 01-17-2006, 06:05 PM

We have nice manners here in the Midwest. The biggest A-hole in the Midwest, wouldn't get honorable mention in many parts of this country.

RR · #**107** 01-17-2006, 06:09 PM

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We have nice manners here in the Midwest. The biggest A-hole in the Midwest, wouldn't get honorable mention in many parts of this country.

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This is very true. When I worked in TUnica sometiems players woudl try to give me a hard time, but they didn't know how.

Noo Yawk · #**108** 01-17-2006, 06:46 PM

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Recently, an example of this occurred in the Wynn Cardroom with their hiring of Negreanu. As far as I could tell, the fact that he played someone a heads up match for a lot of money back in the corner had no impact on their business one way or another.

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I disagree. This was good publicity for their new poker room, which they wanted to establish for mid-high stakes players. Also, where it is true that the first games were played in the back of the room, I was there for one of the last games which was being played on a table next to the rail, and there was a large group of spectators watching the game.

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Spectators are fans. Players are customers. Someone who wants to watch a famous person play(fan) is not the same as someone who wants to get into a game with a famous person(customer). Do things to get loyal customers, and the rest will fall into place.

psandman · #**109** 01-17-2006, 08:48 PM

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Hi psandman:

You can take this for what it is worth, but I would only read this blog for entertainment purposes only.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Everything I do is for entertainment purposes only.

Larry David · #**110** 01-17-2006, 11:31 PM

Mason, ever since the tournaments have started at Wynn, we have made a bit of a comeback. The $30/60 goes most days and on big tourney days like today they got 2 going.

As for the host part, I think Kathleen acts like one. She treats every player in the room with the utmost respect no matter how high or low they are playing.