ATo in early, LP table

[Shalara]

8-handed

Shalara is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1(Shalara) raises, </font>UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls
<font color="blue">(4 players, 4.25 BB)</font>

Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB checks,<font color="red"> I bet,</font> MP calls, CO calls, BB calls
<font color="blue">(4 players 6.25 BB)</font>

Well. No telling if there's a jack out there. Given that the lot of them will call with overcards, underpairs, or even back-door flushes, and they likely won't raise unless they have something like 2 pr or better, is this an okay value bet?

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB checks, <font color="red">Shalara bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, BB folds.
<font color="blue">(3 players 9.25 BB)</font>

River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Shalara bets, </font> <font color="red">MP raises</font>, CO folds, Shalara calls.

Don't want to fold with a pot that size. Not too happy about raising either, as he tends to be pretty passive, this raise is kind of surprising. Good? Bad?

<font color="blue">(2 players, 12.5 BB) </font>
<font color="green">(the missing .75 BB is rake)</font>

READS

MP1. Calls anything. I mean *anything*. Don't think I've ever seen him fold pf. Sometimes folds post-flop, but not often. While he bet once on a flush draw, I don't recall him raising very often. He was mostly passive.

CO. Calling station, though inclined to fold on river if he totally missed.

BB. Seem to recall him as a bit loose and a bit passive.

Table is kind of loose, got a few calling stations, very little aggression. Nice table.

[Jaran]

On a table as you describe with this cast of characters, I am more likely to fold ATo up front, but I don't hate the raise. Postflop I play the same, even though he hit 2pr on the river.

-Jaran

[V4P]

Everythings good, however, I'm not paying off the river raise

[Romulus141]

*Grunch*

I'm not sure about raising ATo pre-flop in EP, even in an 8-handed situation. It's marginal, I think, but I might tend to fold here. I'm sure other board members can correct me on this if I'm wrong.

Flop - fine

Turn - fine

River - Your read suggests that he is quite passive. This hand completes a straight-draw, and maybe he hit two-pair. Anyway, you don't even have top pair here. I say fold. I don't think you're going to see a hand you beat very often here.

[ackid]

Fold preflop.

[bennyhana]

You might consider check calling the river with second pair and 2 passive callers. You might get a bet out of KQ, or a weaker T.

the rest of the hand I play the same.

[ottsville]

If he's passive, you should be worried about the raise.

[dchz]

with this read i'd call ATo in EP, i don't hate the raise, but you might not be getting and HU action...

i like the c-bet on flop, it's g00t

but i'd check turn and try to see a cheaper show down to see what everyone else have

i don't think 2nd pair in multiway is worth a value bet on turn

[Xhad]

Preflop people are going to complain about the raise, or they're going to say it's raise or fold, but really all three options are fine, and I would actually call here since it's going to be multiway anyway and you have a small edge (if at all).

River I don't pay off with just second pair. Everything else is good.

[TomBrooks]

Fold the river.