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05-28-2006, 07:55 PM
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BJ - ties win.
Don't ask me where I found this, it is from an online RPG that I play and there is no real money involved.
Generally speaking, how is blackjack strategy affected when ties win for the house ? Part of me doubts if this type of game is beatable at all. With high true count you will encounter 20/20 scenarios much more often. Since this is no longer a push, this probably negates the advantage of a positive count. In the specific game I found, these are the rules: Dealer stands on soft 17 Double 10,11 only Double after split allowed No surrender Dealer doesn't have a hole card. Ties win for the house. 6 deck shoe with 80-85% penetration. Most of the rules suck, but the penetration is good, and spread is 1-10000. Since no real money is involved, heat is of no concern. Is it possible to develop a strategy that beats this game ? 
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#2
05-28-2006, 08:16 PM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack -- "Player Loses Ties" = -8.86%
Not beatable. Run away or be the house.
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#3
05-28-2006, 08:51 PM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
In the game you describe, the dealer usually exposes both cards (hence, "no hole card") before the player plays. The strategy is close, and the player can get a slight advantage. I've seen the game under a number of names -- it was first described by Richard Epstein as "Zweikartenspiel".
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#4
05-28-2006, 09:13 PM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
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In the game you describe, the dealer usually exposes both cards (hence, "no hole card") before the player plays. The strategy is close, and the player can get a slight advantage. I've seen the game under a number of names -- it was first described by Richard Epstein as "Zweikartenspiel". [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, I probably didn't express myself clearly. In this game the dealer is only dealt one card to start, face up. Natural blackjack for the player still pays 3 to 2, but otherwise you can still end up losing even with 21, if you make it in 3 cards or more.
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#5
05-29-2006, 05:49 PM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
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http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack -- "Player Loses Ties" = -8.86% Not beatable. Run away or be the house. [/ QUOTE ] This seems to be the standard blackjack game for charity "casino nights." Don't play it unless you're feeling charitable.
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#6
05-29-2006, 08:18 PM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
I have made a killing playing at these charity events when the dealers are volunteers and they seem to have trouble not flashing their down card when dealing. I played once at one that had a $5 max bet and I took them for $300 in 2 hours. I was playing like I was very very drunk so when I would hit on sometimes like a 17 or 18 or stay on a 14 when the dealer was face up no questions were asked. Helped that my buddies filled out the table and were truely drunk. If you were wondering I didn't tell my buddies until afterwards that the dealer was flashing his down card to me everytime so that they wouldn't blow it.
Brendan
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#7
05-30-2006, 06:59 PM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
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I have made a killing playing at these charity events when the dealers are volunteers and they seem to have trouble not flashing their down card when dealing. I played once at one that had a $5 max bet and I took them for $300 in 2 hours. I was playing like I was very very drunk so when I would hit on sometimes like a 17 or 18 or stay on a 14 when the dealer was face up no questions were asked. Helped that my buddies filled out the table and were truely drunk. If you were wondering I didn't tell my buddies until afterwards that the dealer was flashing his down card to me everytime so that they wouldn't blow it. Brendan [/ QUOTE ] classy
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#9
06-02-2006, 09:51 AM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
[ QUOTE ]
I have made a killing playing at these charity events when the dealers are volunteers and they seem to have trouble not flashing their down card when dealing. I played once at one that had a $5 max bet and I took them for $300 in 2 hours. I was playing like I was very very drunk so when I would hit on sometimes like a 17 or 18 or stay on a 14 when the dealer was face up no questions were asked. Helped that my buddies filled out the table and were truely drunk. If you were wondering I didn't tell my buddies until afterwards that the dealer was flashing his down card to me everytime so that they wouldn't blow it. Brendan [/ QUOTE ] Out of curiosity, what kind of charity was this? I would hate to think that we were, you know, like $300 away from curing cancer and missed out.
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#10
06-02-2006, 10:01 AM
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Re: BJ - ties win.
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Out of curiosity, what kind of charity was this? I would hate to think that we were, you know, like $300 away from curing cancer and missed out. [/ QUOTE ] well they should know better than to gamble with money they cant afford to lose
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