LIMCASH - 15/30 - first hand.

[toke]

Bet-fold seems to be the standard line here. That being said, I like the idea of check-calling to trade little ev for information early in the session.

[green_tea]

I'd most likely check-call. check-fold is too weak opposite an oppo who hasn't shown much strength at all.

I don't like betting the river because by checking preflop and check-raising the flop, oppo is quite likely to read us for a small pair. But since this is exactly what we have, I don't want to risk putting more money OOP in when we could easily have been outdrawn.

green_tea

[CrushU]

Just curious on the outcome of the hand. Did you end up folding?

[Surf]

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Just curious on the outcome of the hand. Did you end up folding?

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I checked, he checked through. He showed K5o.

Surf

[The Spy]

You got your information. The guy's way too passive to play HU. He should have realized he was ahead on the flop and there's no excuse for not 3-betting you. If you had an ace or pocket pair you'd raise preflop, and if you hit two pair, you'd probably check-call the flop, hoping to raise the turn. It would be worth paying an extra bet to learn that much.

[Surf]

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You got your information. The guy's way too passive to play HU.

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Agreed. I had an enjoyable, yet relatively short, HU session vs him.

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He should have realized he was ahead on the flop and there's no excuse for not 3-betting you. If you had an ace or pocket pair you'd raise preflop, and if you hit two pair, you'd probably check-call the flop, hoping to raise the turn. It would be worth paying an extra bet to learn that much.

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I'd be careful about looking for reasons to reraise weak holdings on drawless boards. I'd check Aces preflop plenty, and I c/r them on flops like these, too, because my opponent wont believe i have the A, and because I c/r lots of flops. If I hit 2pair i'm just as likely to c/r the flop as the turn. So, while 3betting definitely has appeal I think if he knew my play calling would be a better play b/c 3betting is going get pounded by better hands.

Surf

[waxie]

I'm not folding here, particularly with so much money in the pot.

[vmacosta]

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You got your information. The guy's way too passive to play HU.

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Agreed. I had an enjoyable, yet relatively short, HU session vs him.

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He should have realized he was ahead on the flop and there's no excuse for not 3-betting you. If you had an ace or pocket pair you'd raise preflop, and if you hit two pair, you'd probably check-call the flop, hoping to raise the turn. It would be worth paying an extra bet to learn that much.

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I'd be careful about looking for reasons to reraise weak holdings on drawless boards. I'd check Aces preflop plenty, and I c/r them on flops like these, too, because my opponent wont believe i have the A, and because I c/r lots of flops. If I hit 2pair i'm just as likely to c/r the flop as the turn. So, while 3betting definitely has appeal I think if he knew my play calling would be a better play b/c 3betting is going get pounded by better hands.

Surf

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but K5o on this board when nobody raised pf is not a weak holding.

I know this is not my argument to be butting into, but I must say that if I had K5o I'd be 3 betting the flop or popping the turn EVERY time against all but the tightest/most passive villains. The reasoning is pretty obvious--you likely have the best hand but there are meny hands (like just about any 2!) that you would like to see fold.

[Surf]

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but K5o on this board when nobody raised pf is not a weak holding.

I know this is not my argument to be butting into, but I must say that if I had K5o I'd be 3 betting the flop or popping the turn EVERY time against all but the tightest/most passive villains. The reasoning is pretty obvious--you likely have the best hand but there are meny hands (like just about any 2!) that you would like to see fold.

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You're right, it's not a weak holding, sorry.

However, if my villain has any 2 cards >5 that are unpaired, in a pot this size we profit more by having him continue betting than we do by folding a live 6outer.

Surf