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KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
Villain is 18/4.5/1.5, what do you guys think of this play? On the turn I figure the only hand I am getting any value out of whatsoever was the Ac, all the rest I am WA/WB. It's hard to put him on a set on this board the way he played it but you never know with these tight-passive/passives. On the river set is even less likely so my guess is he flopped the flush. Does anyone call this river? I usually do but I decided to fold for a change. I really don't think I induced a bluff v this player.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($217.70) UTG ($689.64) UTG+1 ($143.42) UTG+2 ($243.74) Hero ($243.05) MP2 ($124.25) MP3 ($105.26) CO ($336.57) Button ($158.35) SB ($156.84) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $8, UTG+2 calls $8. Flop: ($43) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Button folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls $30. Turn: ($103) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+2 checks, Hero checks. River: ($103) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets $60</font>, Hero folds. |
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
When you check the turn it looks real weak. I wouldn't be suprised to see Tx, JJ-QQ fire and take this down.
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
You induced the bluff from the Ac with the turn check. I think you gotta call this.
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
From a lot of players I wouldn't be surprised, a tight-passive player is just going to check or bet smal most of the time though? QQ is the only hand that marginally makes sense and I think he's raising that pre-flop. JJ would bet smaller, so would a ten. That's my read at least.
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
I guess there wasn't much to talk about then
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
A bluff from the missed Ac is the only hand that makes sense at all, theres really no other hand I can think of that makes sense. So if we're only beating one hand which is a bluff a fold makes more sense doesn't it? I mean like I said earlier maybe QQ bet's like this but.... well I haven't seen it before let's put it that way.
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
I think villian's range is closer to what Thremp posted than just the naked Ac
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
Well, like I said I usually call here... but against this type of player I've found I very very rarely pick off a bluff. If they had some sort of value like a pair they'd just check it to see a showdown, they know I'm not calling with anything they beat. Be interesting to see if anyone else folds here though.
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
omg call, you're making me cry.
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Re: KK v tight-passive/passive, good river fold?
I guess I should add I have a tight aggressive image, close to being a rock.
I realize this must make you 6-max guys cry... be nice if someone with a lot of full ring experience replied though. |
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