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04-28-2006, 09:08 PM
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Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
And if so how's it doing? If not, where could one exist, and why aren't you there, helping it exist?
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#2
04-28-2006, 10:05 PM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
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And if so how's it doing? If not, where could one exist, and why aren't you there, helping it exist? [/ QUOTE ] No. It does not exist, anywhere. There are not enough resources in any existing area to provide the necessary levels of competitive property right enforcement to bring it about. The notion that somalia is anarchocapitalist is absurd. How can a place be anarchocapitalist when there is no [censored] capital?
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04-28-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
Check out http://www.simplyanarchy.com/ under 'pro-anarchy' for a bunch of succesful historical examples.
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#5
04-28-2006, 10:19 PM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
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The notion that somalia is anarchocapitalist is absurd. How can a place be anarchocapitalist when there is no [censored] capital? [/ QUOTE ] hmk, This seems a bit strong imo. Somolia is doing lots of things right currently, and the relative 'statelessness' they have is the biggest reason why they are faring so much better than their neighbors. So I think in a lot of ways they are more AC than any other current society. That said, Somolia certainly has its problems, much of which is most likely due to it being 'poor', as you point out, and its years of subjugation under government.
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#6
04-29-2006, 11:16 PM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
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Check out http://www.simplyanarchy.com/ under 'pro-anarchy' for a bunch of succesful historical examples. [/ QUOTE ] Successful? Those examples are patently ridiculous. With the "possible" exception of Somalia, none of them exist and even the examples that were given weren't true anarchies. Wouldn't you agree that the truest test of the "success" of a political system would be it's longevity? If it is working why change it?
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#7
04-30-2006, 12:12 AM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
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Successful? Those examples are patently ridiculous. With the "possible" exception of Somalia, none of them exist and even the examples that were given weren't true anarchies. Wouldn't you agree that the truest test of the "success" of a political system would be it's longevity? If it is working why change it? [/ QUOTE ] Would you care to elaborate on why these examples are 'patently ridiculous'? While admittedly many of these historical examples do not represent 'total/complete' anarchy, to dismiss them because of this is ridiculous. What these historical examples show is how a society can function with very little State. They also provide empirical refutations of pro-State arguments of the form "x couldn't possibly be provided without the State...". As for longevity, medieval Iceland lasted in its semi-anarchic state for longer than the US has existed...
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#8
04-30-2006, 06:47 AM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
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[ QUOTE ] Successful? Those examples are patently ridiculous. With the "possible" exception of Somalia, none of them exist and even the examples that were given weren't true anarchies. Wouldn't you agree that the truest test of the "success" of a political system would be it's longevity? If it is working why change it? [/ QUOTE ] Would you care to elaborate on why these examples are 'patently ridiculous'? While admittedly many of these historical examples do not represent 'total/complete' anarchy, to dismiss them because of this is ridiculous. What these historical examples show is how a society can function with very little State. They also provide empirical refutations of pro-State arguments of the form "x couldn't possibly be provided without the State...". As for longevity, medieval Iceland lasted in its semi-anarchic state for longer than the US has existed... [/ QUOTE ] The biggest words in your whole response there were "semi" and "very little". I agree to an extent that too much government is over intrusive. However, the problem lies in the basic premise of an AC. Services that governments do supply simply are not taken care of in a pure AC society. Your true AC'er is more interested in making sure that nobody interferes with their right to make a profit than making sure that society itself is able to survive.
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#10
04-30-2006, 07:07 AM
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Re: Does an A/C society exist anywhere at the moment?
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[ QUOTE ] Services that governments do supply simply are not taken care of in a pure AC society. [/ QUOTE ] Such as.....? [/ QUOTE ] Quick list of just some because I really don't have the inclination to fight the entire AC block who seem to band together to try and roll over everybody in this forum. 1. Defense 2. Trade with other Societies 3. Infrastructure 4. Laws and enforcement
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